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Apocalypse Tribe HQ _ Archived News _ Warhammer Online Coming 2007

Posted by: Dive Apr 2 2006, 11:10 PM

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Mythic Entertainment has announced that http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/home/ is in development for a 2007 release. Widely regarded as the inspiration for the Warcraft series of games, the Warhammer fantasy world will make it's appearance on the MMO scene sometime next year. Distinguishing itself from most online character development, Warhammer Online will not reward gameplay with standard "levels", instead your avatar will gradually change it's appearance and increase in size, grow beards, horns, etc.

Still a long way off, but I am already excited about this game. Undoubtedly the first fantasy MMO I can truthfully say I am looking forward to.

Chaos anyone? evilking.gif

Posted by: Crushinator Apr 3 2006, 03:20 AM

Finally, the massively multiplayer beard growing sim the gaming world has been waiting for!!!

Now that is what I call EMERGENT GAMEPLAY.

They better tighten up those graphics before 2007, though. I wanna see every single scraggly hair on that drunken hillbilly's beard rendered with self-shadowing real life physics!

woend.gif <-- Manliest facial hair emoticon we have here.

Posted by: Woe Apr 3 2006, 11:22 AM

QUOTE (Crushinator @ Apr 3 2006, 03:20 AM)
Finally, the massively multiplayer beard growing sim the gaming world has been waiting for!!!

Now that is what I call EMERGENT GAMEPLAY.

They better tighten up those graphics before 2007, though. I wanna see every single scraggly hair on that drunken hillbilly's beard rendered with self-shadowing real life physics!

woend.gif <-- Manliest facial hair emoticon we have here.

hahaha.

I wonder how female characters will "develop". beigelaugh.gif

we'll have to keep an eye on this.

Posted by: Ellianna Apr 3 2006, 04:07 PM

yeea you'd love that wouldnt you woe bash.gif

Posted by: Knightsword Apr 3 2006, 08:01 PM

hmm, an alliance of humans with dwarves and elves vs a hoard of orcs, goblins and evil elves. And there is also plague that turns people into monsters. Where have I seen this before?

Posted by: Dive Apr 3 2006, 08:14 PM

QUOTE (Knightsword @ Apr 3 2006, 08:01 PM)
hmm, an alliance of humans with dwarves and elves vs a hoard of orcs, goblins and evil elves. And there is also plague that turns people into monsters. Where have I seen this before?

Lord of the Rings.

AM I RITE??

Seriously, Mythic is going to have to work very hard to try and survive against WoW, and they probably won't succeed. But who cares, in my opinion, Warhammer is infinitely cooler than WoW can ever be.

Here's to Massively Multiplayer Beard Growing Sims! levelup.png

Posted by: Knightsword Apr 3 2006, 08:24 PM

Warhammer has been around along time, and is what Warcraft ripped off on the PC, though sadly the masses arn't going to know this and call it as what I wrote in my previous post. There just isn't any respect for us pnp players.

Posted by: Dive Apr 3 2006, 08:30 PM

Indeed, it's almost impossible to accurately create digital Warhammer without Joe Mainstream crying for it's downfall as a WoW clone. Interestingly enough, the rumor is that the original Warcraft was initially designed for the Warhammer world, but the deal with Games Workshop fell through.

Posted by: Knightsword Apr 3 2006, 09:08 PM

It would make sense, Starcraft then could have been warhammer 40,000, also the huge cartoonish armors and what not, are found in warhammer, which started the look originally.

Posted by: AC9breaker Apr 4 2006, 05:54 AM

"This is my beard. There are many like it, but this is my beard. I am nothing without my beard. My beard is nothing without me."

Posted by: AC9breaker Apr 4 2006, 11:03 PM

Thought I'd bump this at the discovery of some info I saw over at Allakhazam.


QUOTE (Allakhazam)
I had the unique opportunity last week to visit Mythic HQ and learn all about their exciting upcoming game, Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning. The inventors and master of RvR are building this game to offer a brand new type of RvR experience, which looks like a heck of a lot of fun. This is a long one, so bear with me!

Races and Classes

There will be two alliances in the game, boiling down to Order vs Chaos. On the side of Order are the human Empire, the haughty High Elves, and the ale-loving Dwarves. On the side of Chaos are the Orcs and Goblins that comprise the Greenskins, the mutated servants of Chaos, and the stealthy Dark Elves. Each race has four (or so) classes that exemplify the racial archetypes. For example, Dwarves have the Ironbreaker, which is their defensive fighter, the Hammerer, which is the offensive fighter, the healing spellcaster Rune Priest, and the Engineer, a ranged inventor and magic user.

RvR

There are RvR and non-RvR parts of every zone, so you won't have to experience load times when entering a PvP conflict. All PvP is consensual. You can gain Trophy Items from RvR to let you customize your armor for looks (and most likely not stats). For example, if you're an Orc and you kill enough Dwarves, you could get a Dwarf skull which you could place on your shoulder spikes, on your belt buckle, or perhaps on a chain around you neck.
The End-Game content is a RvR campaign to take over enemy cities. If your side is totally outnumbered, as tends to happen in these types of games there could be PvP boosts to your alliance to try and balance it out, through stat bonuses or extra NPC spawns.
Currently, they are planning on making it so that opposite alliances can't communicate, although that may change.

Zones

There are 11 zones per pair of conflicting enemies, and three sets of enemies, bringing the total to 33 zones on release.
Zone configuration:


            *    1 - 4 are tiered zones

            |    middle 4 is a neutral zone at start

1 - 2 - 3 - 4    * are capitals

|  |  | \ |    battlefield moves between two capitals

|  |  |  4    can probably go from 2 to your capital

|  |  | / |    go from your capital to allies capitals

1 - 2 - 3 - 4    each set has same basic layout

            |

            *


You can gain control of the tier 4 zones and capital cities though winning Battlefields events, which are non-instanced events of various types in those zones.
There are also instanced Scenarios for random PvPing for objectives. In order to try and avoid the long queue times and realm imbalancing that plagues other games, they are planning on bringing in NPCs to balance the player teams out.

Quests

There are a few interesting new types of quests:


    * Automatic group quests (ie, "everyone nearby feed the ogre")

    * Non-PvP RvR quests (ie, "heal the hurt dwarves with ale" vs "kill the hurt dwarves and steal their beards")

    * Branching Quests (ie, "Deliver the note to gain exp" vs "Sell the note to a spy for some quick cash")

    * "Christmas" Quests (ie, wandering though the wilderness you find someone who needs quick help with a big reward... encouraging world exploration)


There are three internal quest classifications:


    * Green: Non PvP in PvE areas (ie, fedex quests)

    * Yellow: Non PvP in RvR areas (ie, gather components for an NPC in a battlefield)

    * Red: PvP in RvR areas (kill the dwarves!)


Each type of quest is available from level 1 on for all playstyles, allowing people to do any sort of playstyle from the beginning to the end of the game!
Finally, Mythic is making sure that you always get a useful reward... even if you're an orc doing dark elf quest, you'll be able to get something that'll help your character.

Combat

WARNING: Combat is still heavily under development, so if the game doesn't end up anything like this, don't shoot the messanger!

They are planning on having three major themes to combat, Tactics, Main Combat, and Morale Bonuses.

There is a Strategy bar where you add Tactics pre-fight to boost up your stats or abilities. For example, you can get +5 to ice spells, +5 strength, faster casting, etc. The bar has X spaces, each "Tactic" has Y slots. You will get Tactics like you get any other item, spell, or ability. You also might find ways to lower the number of slots certain Tactics take up in the Strategy bar.

There is also a Morale meter, for you to build up Morale as you fight. You can spend a little bit to use a low power ability, or build it up to use a higher power one. You also can get Morale skills like any other item. You gain Morale by fighting well (eg, if you're hitting a huge Rock Golem and not doing any damage, you certainly aren't gaining any Morale from it!), and lose it quickly when the fight ends.

They're planning on making Auto-attack weapon damage and fighting ability damage independant, the guiding metaphor for that is that an Ogre with a spoon can still kill you, midget with big magical halberd can't.

PvP vs PvE

You can go through the entire game on only PvP, only PvE, or (as they're hoping most folks do), a mix of both. The game starts 80% PvE 20% PvP, and they're planning on having it end up with the opposite ratio. There will be PvE raids for those that get bored of RvR, but RvR is the major focus of the game. You can RvR from day 1 of playing, there's no initial time where all you do is kill bats and rats.

Look+Feel

They're putting big artistic time into Facial Expressions for the game, making it so your character actually looks like the emotions he is feeling. They're putting a rear-view mirror panel into the bottom of the screen, a la Doom, to show you how your character is reacting to events.

Your character also changes as you gain power, for example Orcs get bigger, Dwarves get more fancy long beards, and al warrior classes get more beefy muscles. With the texturing in the game, it's quite obvious when this increases too, with the huge amount of detail they put into everything.

The interface will be standardized and skinnable/moddable by players. They want everyone to get the best experience they can out of the interface, so they're making it highly customizable.

Finally, the Banners, Game Looks, etc, are all extremely accurate to original Games Workshop art, since every bit of art has to pass through GW's approval system. So, Warhammer miniature and tabletop fans rejoice!

Items

WARNING 2: Items are also still heavily under development.

They're planning on having NO Bind on Pickup, and only maybe having Bind on Equip. They want a robust economy, and they're considering adding some sort of item decay to balance it out.

The Trophies are a big way to customize your character's looks, and since everyone will be getting a different set of them, you can reach into the Trophy Grab Bag and set yourself up to look truly unique.


Reading more about some of the features has gotten my interest in the game stirring. Sounds pretty badass.

Posted by: Dive Apr 4 2006, 11:20 PM

QUOTE
(ie, "heal the hurt dwarves with ale" vs "kill the hurt dwarves and steal their beards")

hahahaha sweeet! buttrock.gif

I can't wait to see what else they have in store for this release. I'm particularly interested in what kinds of Chaos Gifts will be presented and if they will show the gradual degredation of your character as he slowly succumbs to the powers of Chaos.

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They're putting a rear-view mirror panel into the bottom of the screen, a la Doom, to show you how your character is reacting to events.

Badass.
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Posted by: DarkEpyon Apr 5 2006, 03:10 PM

While I've not terribly familiar with Warhammer, this looks pretty interesting, especially the beard growing dwarves. No doubt those will be hugely popular. Meanwhile I wait for the messiah that is PSU.

Posted by: Knightsword Apr 11 2006, 07:37 PM

Here's Penny Arcades take on the game

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/04/10

Posted by: Oddies da Nerfed Apr 13 2006, 10:15 PM

Just got my CGW mag today, has some infos and pictures on "WAR". Although i was kinda dissapointed this would not be the 40k genre, after seeing pictures and info on what they "want" the game to be. I will surely keep an eye out. Unfrotunatly the ignorant masses thinking warcraft is older, the huge scope of the game in terms of pvp. As well as the history of damn near every video game ver of warhammer has failed. Mythic has a "lot" of work to do to pull it off.

I do hope this game does succeed the warhammer series is a very good one, even being partial to 40k. If they pull this off with the pvp styles of town raids and capturing em, npc assists in battles, etc. Looting towns captured sounds like a blast, atleast untill enemy players force you out, or after 24h npcs will try to retake the city.
People who enjoy pvp will proly bail from wow pretty fast. I just hope jonny 12 year old ganksalot can't ruin everyones fun.

Useable artilery/it will assist in battles. Npcs assist in battles depending on numbers per side (no 3 hours to form and go), take and hold of cities/zones/etc. Lot of shit to pull off, but will be oh so fucking sweet if they do.

Posted by: Dive Apr 15 2006, 12:29 PM

One thing about WoW that would have been cool was useable artillery and siege engines. You see all these huge ballista and cannons at defense boundries but there was no way to utilize them. I hope they implement this well, there should be constant front line battles for the defense of major cities/fortresses.

Posted by: AC9breaker May 3 2006, 04:17 PM

The full official trailer was released on IGN yesterday. Its just CGI but man is it cool to watch. Warboss 4tw!

http://media.pc.ign.com/media/748/748723/vids_1.html

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