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The AT game Brainstorm, Ideas for the game and story
Vitamin D
post Jul 15 2005, 11:31 AM
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Haha nice. This is really taking shape. Yeah I was thinking there had to at LEAST be a ninja. beigelaugh.gif The rest of the types are also very AT. It will be so damn cool when this is underway.


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post Jul 15 2005, 12:41 PM
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BTW there are image formats you can do the sprites in. 32bit with a full alpha channel or 24bit with color keying. I don't care what the color key is but make it something easy if you want to use that (like 0xff00ff or 0x0000ff). I have a number of blending options available in my software rasterizer so I prefer to use the full alpha channel (you can do additive, subtractive or alpha blend). That's why I support the TGA format by default because it has nice 32bit ARGB format support.

If you want to do color keying though I'm fine with that then you can stick with BMP or TGA format.
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post Jul 15 2005, 12:47 PM
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beigesmile.gif

this is getting interesting!!!

I think we need to (finally) get technical now.
1. Number of colors and a set palette?
2. Character size?
3. Background (level) size?
4. Buildings, street, grass, landscape - that kind of thing?
5. Assorted background do-dads that will be interacted with - barrels, weapons, windows, etc?
6. Various weapons and/or armor? Size and color?
7. SFX? !!

All of this art will be done sprite-like, right? If so, I would LOVE to help out on any and everything.

side extra icing type stuff -
1. Flaming barrels!
2. 'splosions!
3. dead bodies - memories of the poor victims before you arrived beigesmile.gif
4. homages to past and present AT'ers
5. Proj, does this engine of yours allow for parallax scrolling backgrounds? Did I use that phrase right? hehe.. For example - all early Sonic games.


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post Jul 15 2005, 04:27 PM
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I'd like to take a stab at doing the robot.

I like SCU's thought of organizing things. Maybe we should set a date for when these character designs should be done. Just a date we can try to aim for.

Also, as for the story, I think we should hold off intill the characters are done. Then build the story around them. It seems easier to build a story around characters in my opinion.

P.S. Seems great to have a person as skilled in this area as you Proj. Also, Dive if possible could you send me the link for that program you used to make the mock up?


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post Jul 15 2005, 07:09 PM
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So roughly timeline wise it should look something like this:

finish art prototype
we don't need to have strong concept art at this point just something workable
2-3 animations (walk, attack, etc)
1-2 backgrounds
do some kind of concept art figure out how much art we want to generate, determine colors, look, etc
rough game flow breakdown
finish 2-3 characters and 2 levels, first level widgets, first particles and ui
flush out bugs and gameplay
break the rest of the game down into mini-milestones (usually per-level)
finish it up.. add polish and possible some minor features

To address unit's engine questions directly:
- the engine supports 32 bit color, 'unlimited' layers, alpha blending etc
- palette's are not worth the effort anymore for modern game programming
- there is a rough particle engine which we i would like to expand to do some nice environmental effects
- i think for general level design i will go with 3-4 layer parallax scroller and add some generalized trigger support

I have a sample game which is just about done running on this engine, I originally wrote it to do games on symbian OS (cellphones). If we get some file space I can upload various versions of the game (it's a texas holdem poker game) as well as some other 3d demos I have laying around.
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post Jul 19 2005, 01:25 PM
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BTW Like i said before any animation is good at this point to give me something to work with. Don't worry about it even looking very good, it will help to see things in motion to actually craft some good animation.
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post Jul 21 2005, 08:41 AM
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first i just passed by to see progress......but i think i might actually try to contribute beigebigrazz.gif
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post Jul 25 2005, 12:35 AM
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Come on guys, we got something going here, lets not let this die THIS fast :D
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post Jul 25 2005, 02:39 AM
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QUOTE (Wiryu @ Jul 25 2005, 01:35 AM)
Come on guys, we got something going here, lets not let this die THIS fast :D

It's not dying at all, I am currently working on some character design, I just didn't have anything to update yet. I know Retehi and AC9 are also getting some designs together. Of course this isn't stopping anyone else from throwing out some plot/gameplay ideas, so if anyone has some thoughts, lets hear them.

I just had a usual busy week and was out of the house a lot this weekend.
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post Jul 25 2005, 01:10 PM
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wonderful :D
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post Sep 8 2005, 12:30 AM
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so is this idea crushinated.gif ?


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post Sep 8 2005, 12:47 AM
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I think its just been woend.gif for the moment.

Everyone seems real busy to finish up the things we've started. I believe dive had sevral sketches done for some of the classes and Retehi's been pretty busy himself moving and all. I also have sevral robot sketches done myself too but, just haven't had the time to work them in adobe illustrator.


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post Sep 8 2005, 01:44 AM
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I think the only thing I could contribute that's worth anything is music, since I love writing it, but I believe someone already mentioned having someone in mind for that before. So I've just been kind of sitting back and watching the development. I hope something good comes out of this, it would be awesome.


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post Sep 8 2005, 02:16 AM
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QUOTE (tanshin @ Sep 8 2005, 03:44 AM)
I think the only thing I could contribute that's worth anything is music, since I love writing it, but I believe someone already mentioned having someone in mind for that before. So I've just been kind of sitting back and watching the development. I hope something good comes out of this, it would be awesome.

Oh shizzle, a song from the Tanshin, thats like getting Yoko Kanno to compose our flash animations! I don't see any reason why you can't do a song. Even if someone else did plan on working on it.(which I don't think so) Besides maybe this would be motivation for some of us!

Haha Man, we need to play some ninja jams on AT radio. "Everyones going down..."


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post Sep 8 2005, 04:26 PM
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Breaker pretty much explained it all. I would love to get this project going again.

As far as music, I really don't have anyone lined up to compose anything. I may have mentioned that my brother could do some tracks but I haven't set anything up with him yet. The option for anyone to come up with some title and background music is wide open.
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