Kerry Vs. Bush, Presidential Election |
Kerry Vs. Bush, Presidential Election |
| Guest_Zio_* |
 Oct 15 2004, 06:41 AM
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I thuoght I'd make this just to see what the people AT think about the two presidents and who should be president. I personally vote Bush just because I don't think Kerry would do a good job for many reasons such as he says hes going to make all these different plans but he doesn't say how he is going to pay for them. Bush isn't as good of a speaker but I think he gets his point across. Kerry keeps saying Bush is the first president to lose a lot of jobs in 72 years which is total crap cuz the economy was falling before Bush got into office and then 9/11 hit a year later and people stopped going places and buying things for a little while. This is a good example of whats happened when Hoover got into offlice 70 some years ago. Plus Bush has done a good job of getting a good amount of jobs back. Just vote who you want to be president and why.
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Oct 15 2004, 07:41 AM
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 Revolution to the Destruction  Group: Paragon Caste Posts: 2007 Joined: 14-March 03 From: The Black Spiral Member No.: 21 |
Kerry doesn't have anything to back up his myriad plans. As for the economy, what some folks fail to remember is that Bush inherited a recession because his predecessor undid what Ronald Reagan started. On the military, since Pres. Bush has been in office, the military has received a 21% pay increase. Good news for those of us with family members in the armed forces.
And another thing is, I don't want the "Ketchup Princess" Theresa Heinz Kerry as the first lady. She'll be the biggest back-seat driver like you wouldn't believe. John Kerry's own party doesn't even support him! I think they're gearing up for Hillary in '08. -------------------- "Computers are incredibly fast, accurate and stupid. Human beings are incredibly slow, inaccurate and brilliant. Together they are powerful beyond imagination." -Albert Einstein |
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Oct 15 2004, 09:49 AM
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 Giga Frame Group: AT Certified Posts: 109 Joined: 31-December 03 Member No.: 112 |
I hate political discussions. Some people act like they can change another persons opinion, and then everyone gets mad when they start talking about it! Useless.
For that matter, I shall never say who I support >.> The only thing that's important is that you go out and vote if you are registered. -------------------- <CENTER>BlakWolf - Gabriell <BR>Level 46 WAR / 22 MNK / 20 PAL / 19 THF / 15 SAM</CENTER>
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| Guest_Zio_* |
Oct 15 2004, 09:59 AM
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I think that term you just described would be called debating >_> then again yeah some people do flip out about it like a certain someone in my math class but hes about the only one I know that gets really mad about it. And of course get out and vote November 2nd! |
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Oct 15 2004, 10:27 AM
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 Apocalypse Tribe Radio Group: Dark Templar Posts: 1824 Joined: 10-December 02 Member No.: 1 |
Actually even better would be to learn as much as you can about the candidates and then voice your opinion with a vote. Personally I feel this whole Kerry vs. Bush brouhaha equates to one of those old Toho monster movies. Like Godzilla vs. Mothra, no matter who wins, Tokyo gets destroyed in the process. Let's try and keep this discussion civil, I can see how it could get ugly. |
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Oct 15 2004, 11:00 AM
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 Show-off Group: Arbiter Caste Posts: 853 Joined: 23-December 02 From: Sin City Member No.: 10 |
I don't care for politics one bit, and this election isn't making it any better. It's like a 1st grade class election.
I'm tired of all the Vietnam shit though, talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel for dirt. Highly doubt I'll vote anyway, sad considering it's the first time I can vote. --------------------  |
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Oct 15 2004, 11:04 AM
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Revolution to the Destruction Group: Paragon Caste Posts: 2007 Joined: 14-March 03 From: The Black Spiral Member No.: 21 |
And no Gransazers or Justirizers to stop them. -------------------- "Computers are incredibly fast, accurate and stupid. Human beings are incredibly slow, inaccurate and brilliant. Together they are powerful beyond imagination." -Albert Einstein |
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Oct 15 2004, 12:26 PM
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 Hyper Frame Group: Paragon Caste Posts: 489 Joined: 12-October 03 From: Brooklyn, NY Member No.: 67 |
There's a big difference between debating and competely flipping out because someone has an opposing point of view. Sadly, I know more people who react with the latter than with the former. With that said, I side with Gabriell. The notion of debating implies a calm discussion in which each interlocutor attempts to sway the views of another with consistent, intelligent evidence for his or her position. It does not, however, include broadly, and offensively, generalyzing the position of their opponent and the idea that the louder their voice gets, the more their point gets across. It has been my experience that when I am in a debate with a hothead, words fall on deaf ears -- for me and for my opponent. I will not be swayed by coercion, as I am sure most of you will not be, either. Please note that this implies to the aggressive psycho, too, as they are so clouded by their anger or desire to look like the good little loyal subject to his point of view (so passionate! *rolls eyes*), that they will not listen to a single word you have to say, and excuse any evidence you have to some rediculous label. I commend DE for his very intelligent post, but I will withhold my own opinions for at least a few days, by when I should see if we are capable of having a mature and intelligent discussion. Sorry if I'm overstepping my boundaries as a neophyte here, but maybe it's just residual bitterness over my last few "debates" on the matter. </rant> -------------------- "So this Zealot comes to my door, all glazed eyes and clean reproductive organs, asking me if I ever think about God. So I tell him I killed God. I tracked God down like a rabid dog, hacked off his legs with a hedge trimmer, raped him with a corncob and boiled off his corpse in an acid bath. So he pulls an alternating-current taser on me and tells me that only the Official Serbian Church of Tesla can save my polyphase intrinsic electric field, known to non-engineers as 'the soul.' So I hit him. What would you do?" -- Warren Ellis, Transmetropolitan
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Oct 15 2004, 12:58 PM
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Giga Frame Group: AT Certified Posts: 109 Joined: 31-December 03 Member No.: 112 |
I just see debating over opinions as a waste of energy, is all (I'm not saying you shouldn't talk about it, I'm just throwing in my ideas :D ). Most of the time, you can't change a persons opinion, even if it is extremely flawed. I just think, a majority of politics is your opinion (Although, of course, there are many facts that can be debated). Everytime I see someone debate politics, it always gets ugly. No one likes beind told they are wrong. I only see it helping out people who are on the fence, and I'd wish said people could get the facts from an unbiased source and make up their mind accourding to what ideals they relate too, instead of getting information from post-debate discussions, or relying on visual aesthetics. That'll never happen, though  Debating over facts is great, though. But most of the time it just turns into "I believe in this" vs. "I don't believe in that. So you're stupid". There are a lot of facts that can be debated on each side, though. However, I think it's a good thing to talk about what you believe in, and not try to sway people who are already set in their ways off course, but simply talk and try to understand where they are coming from. It helps people get to know each others ideals, instead of seperating them. But that's just how I view almost everything, so eh.
100% agreed. I didn't mean it to come off as "vote blindly" or what have you. I was hoping the research part would be implied 
-------------------- <CENTER>BlakWolf - Gabriell <BR>Level 46 WAR / 22 MNK / 20 PAL / 19 THF / 15 SAM</CENTER>
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Oct 15 2004, 01:28 PM
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 Sunbro Group: Paragon Caste Posts: 753 Joined: 16-April 03 From: 'Murica Member No.: 25 |
I don't know if I like Kerry... but I can say I strongly oppose having George W. Bush back in office. That is all.
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Oct 15 2004, 01:30 PM
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Revolution to the Destruction Group: Paragon Caste Posts: 2007 Joined: 14-March 03 From: The Black Spiral Member No.: 21 |
Well, there's always Ralph Nader, providing he didn't get kicked off the ballot here too. -------------------- "Computers are incredibly fast, accurate and stupid. Human beings are incredibly slow, inaccurate and brilliant. Together they are powerful beyond imagination." -Albert Einstein |
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Oct 15 2004, 01:43 PM
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Show-off Group: Arbiter Caste Posts: 853 Joined: 23-December 02 From: Sin City Member No.: 10 |
He has about 2% of the popular vote, with a margin of error of 3% or so. Poor guy.
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Oct 15 2004, 01:45 PM
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Revolution to the Destruction Group: Paragon Caste Posts: 2007 Joined: 14-March 03 From: The Black Spiral Member No.: 21 |
Pretty much all 3rd party folks are screwed over like this every single election.
-------------------- "Computers are incredibly fast, accurate and stupid. Human beings are incredibly slow, inaccurate and brilliant. Together they are powerful beyond imagination." -Albert Einstein |
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Oct 15 2004, 05:25 PM
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 Tears for Fears Group: Paragon Caste Posts: 302 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Oklahoma Member No.: 13 |
I'm not even going to get into an argument about who I think should be President. People who are around me and who know me know who I support.
One thing I DO want to say is this: whoever you support, whoever you think should be the leader of the free world, it is your opportunity and your duty as an American citizen to VOTE on November 2nd. -------------------- <center>
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 Oct 15 2004, 08:06 PM
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 Deus-Ex MachinA Group: Neophyte Caste Posts: 668 Joined: 8-June 03 From: everywhere.. Member No.: 44 |
reality check, folks - both presidential candidates are unfit to rule.. both are bought & paid for, compliments of your neighborhood federal reserve corporation - have a nice day.. ;)
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Oct 15 2004, 08:16 PM
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Hyper Frame Group: Associates Posts: 431 Joined: 13-December 02 Member No.: 7 |
Agreed. 100 percent. |
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Oct 16 2004, 07:00 AM
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 Local Ham product Group: AT Certified Posts: 203 Joined: 1-February 04 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 119 |
I put in the poll for Kerry, even though I don't vote for him.
I am strongly opposed to Bush being reelected (and...in all honesty...considering leaving the US and renouncing citizenship if he is...yes realistically). I dislike Kerry for being a subserviant democrat, the same reason I hate 90% of democrats, they are too conserned with playing to both sides to get into office that you cannot tell their views. Which isn't close to as bad as republicans who have their head stuck so far up their ignorant, intollerant, selfish asses to even pretend to be an "honest" person. Democrats are wishy-washy and republicans are just plain corrupt. I vote third party, support dangerous ideas such as government and election reform, socialized healthcare and affirmative action. If I offended you, good. -Ham --------------------  Hamtaru FFXI (retired) 75 rng 65 nin 37 war 34 bst 26 rdm 18 whm 16 blm 12 mnk 91 Woodworking 60 alchemy 60 bonecraft 60 goldsmithing 40 smithing |
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Oct 16 2004, 10:24 AM
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 Local 804 Group: Associates Posts: 737 Joined: 7-October 03 From: Brooklyn Member No.: 66 |
I'm not ganna vote, even though I don't like bush. I don't know why anyone makes a big deal about voting anyway. No ones vote really counts, ever hear of the electoral college? Heh, some democracy.
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Oct 16 2004, 03:33 PM
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 Badass Billionaire Extraordanaire Group: Paragon Caste Posts: 969 Joined: 13-December 02 From: NYC Member No.: 4 |
Exactly how I feel. |
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Oct 16 2004, 04:43 PM
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 Soul Hunter Group: Magister Posts: 2208 Joined: 10-April 03 From: NJ Member No.: 23 |
Dive's post expressed my sentiments well. It feels as if there s an Ogliopoly control most of the politcal offices by the wealthy of America. But what really bothers me is when people complain but don't actually put much effort in changeing the situation. But thats their perogative. But then its even worse when people impose their ideal or beliefs on us. Tells who and what to vote for. Even the whole "Vote or Die" message being pushed by the rap community is really agitating.
I believe Albert Einstien was the one who said,"Peace can not be achieved through war, but through understanding" I think about this every time I try to persuade everyone into believe some of my particular ideals, but then I "wonder what if war is the only way the can understand?" I also agree with the insight you shared with us DE. To me this is just a ploy to get ready For Hilary come 2008. -------------------- "Brotherhood asked for no friendship, only loyalty. They stood back to back as the galaxy burned - always brothers, never friends; traitors together unto the last." --an Excerpt from a Night Lords Novel Void Stalkers Chapter X: Revenge |
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Oct 16 2004, 05:54 PM
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 Solid Frame Group: Paragon Caste Posts: 291 Joined: 5-March 04 Member No.: 125 |
egh it's basically deciding which one is the lesser of 2 evils. i'm not voting..i'm not even registered ... if i were though i'd have to vote for kerry, considering some issues on things bush wants to make illegal...i can not support his views, but i dont like kerry either so that leaves me not voting.
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Oct 17 2004, 09:32 PM
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 c σ м р ℓ є т є ! Group: Neophyte Caste Posts: 355 Joined: 16-December 03 Member No.: 106 |
i think your mom should win the presidential election of 2004.
--------------------  ℓєt γσυя sнσят ℓєgs cαяяү үσυ αωαү ωίtн үσυr тєℓєscσрє єүєs, мєtαl тєєтн. ί cαn'т bє sєєn ωiтh үσυ Kari - Newman Force - level 36 |
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| Guest_Zio_* |
Oct 21 2004, 06:41 AM
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Well it looks like Kerry won the vote on here but for those of you who know what channel one is Bush won in their version of the electoral college 393 to 173 I think. Kerry only won California, Hawaii, and a few of the New England states. I just hope the same thing happens a couple weeks from now.
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Oct 22 2004, 02:01 AM
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Tears for Fears Group: Paragon Caste Posts: 302 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Oklahoma Member No.: 13 |
Well luckily, the same kids who watch Channel One in homeroom aren't old enough to vote.
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Oct 31 2004, 12:22 PM
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Revolution to the Destruction Group: Paragon Caste Posts: 2007 Joined: 14-March 03 From: The Black Spiral Member No.: 21 |
With Election Day drawing ever closer (Tuesday in fact) I offer one last piece of advice:
If you don't like any of the presidential candidates, then Bozo the Clown in '04. A pity Dive or Woe cannot run, seeing as they're under 35. Forget democrats and republicans; this is the  party!
-------------------- "Computers are incredibly fast, accurate and stupid. Human beings are incredibly slow, inaccurate and brilliant. Together they are powerful beyond imagination." -Albert Einstein |
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Nov 2 2004, 10:54 PM
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Hyper Frame Group: Paragon Caste Posts: 489 Joined: 12-October 03 From: Brooklyn, NY Member No.: 67 |
They can't, but SCU can! Unitself for president in '04! He's for technological advancement -- and technological superiority, but that's besides the point :D -------------------- "So this Zealot comes to my door, all glazed eyes and clean reproductive organs, asking me if I ever think about God. So I tell him I killed God. I tracked God down like a rabid dog, hacked off his legs with a hedge trimmer, raped him with a corncob and boiled off his corpse in an acid bath. So he pulls an alternating-current taser on me and tells me that only the Official Serbian Church of Tesla can save my polyphase intrinsic electric field, known to non-engineers as 'the soul.' So I hit him. What would you do?" -- Warren Ellis, Transmetropolitan
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Nov 2 2004, 11:05 PM
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Revolution to the Destruction Group: Paragon Caste Posts: 2007 Joined: 14-March 03 From: The Black Spiral Member No.: 21 |
Oh man... at the rate this thing's going, we'll be lucky if we know who the President is at 4AM!
-------------------- "Computers are incredibly fast, accurate and stupid. Human beings are incredibly slow, inaccurate and brilliant. Together they are powerful beyond imagination." -Albert Einstein |
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Nov 2 2004, 11:25 PM
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c σ м р ℓ є т є ! Group: Neophyte Caste Posts: 355 Joined: 16-December 03 Member No.: 106 |
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@ Amendment 3 -------------------- ℓєt γσυя sнσят ℓєgs cαяяү үσυ αωαү ωίtн үσυr тєℓєscσрє єүєs, мєtαl тєєтн. ί cαn'т bє sєєn ωiтh үσυ Kari - Newman Force - level 36 |
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Nov 2 2004, 11:29 PM
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Revolution to the Destruction Group: Paragon Caste Posts: 2007 Joined: 14-March 03 From: The Black Spiral Member No.: 21 |
Yeah... Most of the stuff I voted on won (save for ammendments 3 and 5). #4 is still a toss-up as of now. Looks like Ohio is going to become the Florida of '04. About 75% of the state is using the antiquated punch cards. We could have the same hanging chad bullshit. -------------------- "Computers are incredibly fast, accurate and stupid. Human beings are incredibly slow, inaccurate and brilliant. Together they are powerful beyond imagination." -Albert Einstein |
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Nov 3 2004, 06:47 AM
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Probably. Here in Ohio they still have to count the provisional ballots and absentee ballots (I think) which total to be about 250,000 votes. Bush is currently ahead by 150,000. I'm also sure law suits will hit the fan either way... Ohio is worth 20 electoral votes so whoever takes it wins. News says its not official but they are lookin at Bush winning it. -Edit: In electoral votes Bush has 254 and Kerry has 252. It could take several days for the votes in Ohio to be counted. Plus how can Bush not take Ohio when most of the congressmen such as the senators and representatives got elected and were republican -_- |
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Nov 3 2004, 07:06 AM
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Giga Frame Group: AT Certified Posts: 109 Joined: 31-December 03 Member No.: 112 |
Being in Ohio as well, I can tell you that the problem last night was the fact that a lot of the polling places were not prepared for the huge turnout. Even when all the state polls were closed, a couple of areas in ohio were still going because there was a huge line even after 7:30.
Zio is correct. There really isn't any scandal, like there was in florida. There are just so many provisional ballets out, and it's so close that it just may swing the state. If Kerry didn't hold out until they were atleast counted, it would just be foolish on his part. From what I understand, the provisionals won't even be counted until Thursday, and the absentee ballots didn't even have to be postmarked until last night. I heard it could be something like 11 days until we officially know. I just don't see Kerry getting a majority of those votes though, because the areas most of those people are in are republican. We will see. Stranger things have happened. -------------------- <CENTER>BlakWolf - Gabriell <BR>Level 46 WAR / 22 MNK / 20 PAL / 19 THF / 15 SAM</CENTER>
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Nov 3 2004, 09:17 AM
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Revolution to the Destruction Group: Paragon Caste Posts: 2007 Joined: 14-March 03 From: The Black Spiral Member No.: 21 |
At least every democratic candidate is guaranteed 55 electoral votes from Cali. That's thanks to Hollywood which is 99% democrat.
Bush has over 58 million popular votes, which is a new record for any president in history. EDIT: A WINNER IS DUBYA!! V-I-C-T-ORY! -------------------- "Computers are incredibly fast, accurate and stupid. Human beings are incredibly slow, inaccurate and brilliant. Together they are powerful beyond imagination." -Albert Einstein |
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Nov 3 2004, 04:46 PM
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Bush is teh winner! wooot!
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Nov 3 2004, 05:19 PM
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Revolution to the Destruction Group: Paragon Caste Posts: 2007 Joined: 14-March 03 From: The Black Spiral Member No.: 21 |
At least Kerry was man enough to admit he couldn't pull this one off. One thing I found odd about his concession speech was he thanked his fellow swift boat vets, yet they hate his guts.
Well, we have 4 more years to live now. If Hillary wins in 2008, to Canada I go. -------------------- "Computers are incredibly fast, accurate and stupid. Human beings are incredibly slow, inaccurate and brilliant. Together they are powerful beyond imagination." -Albert Einstein |
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Nov 3 2004, 05:47 PM
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Show-off Group: Arbiter Caste Posts: 853 Joined: 23-December 02 From: Sin City Member No.: 10 |
Well we're doomed.
Tijuana ahoy! -------------------- |
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Nov 3 2004, 06:00 PM
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Apocalypse Tribe Radio Group: Dark Templar Posts: 1824 Joined: 10-December 02 Member No.: 1 |
now doesn't that make you feel better?
the pigs have won tonight. now they can all sleep soundly. and everything is all right. |
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Nov 3 2004, 06:34 PM
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Local 804 Group: Associates Posts: 737 Joined: 7-October 03 From: Brooklyn Member No.: 66 |
Well this sucks, bush has another 4 years, which means that I gatta start saving up money so Astrid can go to college. He's ganna take all the college money, I know it.
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Nov 3 2004, 06:45 PM
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Badass Billionaire Extraordanaire Group: Paragon Caste Posts: 969 Joined: 13-December 02 From: NYC Member No.: 4 |
UGH, I don't know how he pulled it off. The whole cutting of college funding is going to piss me the hell off.
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Nov 3 2004, 07:04 PM
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Sunbro Group: Paragon Caste Posts: 753 Joined: 16-April 03 From: 'Murica Member No.: 25 |
Don't be fooled by this, the election itself yielded the highest voter turnout since 1968. Bush got 51% of these votes. You do the math. Half the country still hates him.
These guys don't.  ... I'm pretty shocked by the results. I'm happy it was a close race, but I'm disappointed that so many Americans voted to re-elect him. He's really hurt the country in so many ways and I'm sad that people are not seeing this. I suppose the Democrats might have picked the wrong candidate, but I feel any man is better than Bush. The balance of power in the Senate and House scares me a bit as well since they are both swayed in favor of the Republicans. Even worse, I fucking sound like Morfos from TA right now (no offense to that person). I don't particularly like debates/politics, but the whole Bush regime really makes me sick to my stomach. <cyncisim> Let's just hope someone can fix all the damage that is left in the wake of his 8 year tenure. </cynicism> X_X -------------------- PSN ID: USF_Tailgater
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Nov 3 2004, 08:46 PM
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Revolution to the Destruction Group: Paragon Caste Posts: 2007 Joined: 14-March 03 From: The Black Spiral Member No.: 21 |
Ah, Animal Farm (I think). Good book. The political system interests me because I've always liked to see what makes things tick. The way I see it, we've been doing things like this for 200+ years and are still intact, so we must be doing something right. Of course this is coming from one whose father gave 26 years of his life to protect our way of life in the Air Force, which I would have joined, but can't for medical reasons. -------------------- "Computers are incredibly fast, accurate and stupid. Human beings are incredibly slow, inaccurate and brilliant. Together they are powerful beyond imagination." -Albert Einstein |
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Nov 4 2004, 04:54 AM
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Soul Frame Group: AT Certified Posts: 150 Joined: 29-March 04 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 137 |
My one consolation in all this - now he's done with the presidency and he can never ever ever EVER run for President again.
I expect the country to continue its downward slide, and I agree with Mute, I hope someone can come in after 8 yrs and fix it. When you look at how the Dems left the country 4 years ago, it seems that everyone slid so fast...so maybe it can be fixed quick. I just saw a news snippet saying Vegas is giving odds already on who will run next time - with Clinton and Gulianni (sp?) the best bets, Edwards and I forget the other Repub. the other two...I hope BOTH parties spend alot of time finding us better candidates this time than the two we had to choose from now, and I personally dont think Clinton OR Gulianni are acceptable examples in the least. >.< |
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Nov 4 2004, 07:53 AM
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Revolution to the Destruction Group: Paragon Caste Posts: 2007 Joined: 14-March 03 From: The Black Spiral Member No.: 21 |
At least everyone agrees to disagree here. Interestingly enough, one of the initiatives on the ballot in Alaska was to legalize pot. However, my days with that stuff are over, especially since I hava a girlfriend who would break her foot off in my ass and then leave me if I lit up another J.
-------------------- "Computers are incredibly fast, accurate and stupid. Human beings are incredibly slow, inaccurate and brilliant. Together they are powerful beyond imagination." -Albert Einstein |
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Nov 5 2004, 06:50 AM
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Yeah, Bush could never run again but Cheney still can >_> although I seriously doubt it because he is kinda getting up there in the years. |
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Nov 5 2004, 08:26 AM
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Soul Frame Group: AT Certified Posts: 150 Joined: 29-March 04 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 137 |
Good point, however I have read that he has stated he has no interest in continuing in politics, as he can make lots more money in private industry instead, and that is where his goals are.
Besides, I do not believe that he would ever get the nod - hell, half his party wanted him booted for a different VP, didn't they? His health, his age, his poor attitude, (now that I think about it, I don't think his age has any bearing) his scandals, his business ties, all those work against him, and I think he knows it. |
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Nov 5 2004, 09:47 AM
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Revolution to the Destruction Group: Paragon Caste Posts: 2007 Joined: 14-March 03 From: The Black Spiral Member No.: 21 |
Back in 2000, Dick Cheney was really more daddy's pick for VP than it was his son's.
Many are already predicting John McCain vs. Hillary Clinton for 2008. I would've wanted McCain to win in 2000, but oh well. -------------------- "Computers are incredibly fast, accurate and stupid. Human beings are incredibly slow, inaccurate and brilliant. Together they are powerful beyond imagination." -Albert Einstein |
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Nov 5 2004, 04:42 PM
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 Busy In Hell Group: Neophyte Caste Posts: 656 Joined: 21-June 03 From: Detroit, MI Member No.: 51 |
I think Hilary Clinton would have an excellent chance of becoming President. I know one thing, if I can't get a job and the loan people start demanding money, I wish I could tell them to go to the White House and ask Bush for it.
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Soul Frame Group: AT Certified Posts: 150 Joined: 29-March 04 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 137 |
Interesting - I am sad to say I know SO many people who would not...because she's a woman, and a STRONG one at that. How sad is that. I don't know why, but I have a strong physical very VISCERAL reaction to McCain when I see him on television. He frightens me. I know his record is amazing, I know there's no real logic behind it, but that man gives off vibes to me that make me weep at the thought of him being in a position of absolute power. Go figure. |
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