Free will..., Just an ideal? Options

[AC9breaker]

Suppose for an instance there was definative proof of a god in this universe. If he knows everything we do, then is there really such a thing as free will?

Something I saw in a movie, not the exact quote but something along those lines. He then went to elaborate how the notion of free will is just a belief, an ideal we created to make us feel we are in control. He pretty much said that it is a theoretical ideal much like karl marx and his ideals on communism. Later on in the movie it talks about how we act only because it is in our genes. All of our decisions and thinking have been pretty much been preordained by genes and the nature, henceforth instinct. An autonamus thought that makes us perform or think an image already set by our body. They also elborated that even in our society we are controlled by rules, laws, norms, and unwritten laws. They then suggested that these guidlines are so effective becuase everyone wants to have a place in life and meaning. Like a gear in a clock. As opposed to just wandering around aimlessly and erratically like elctrons and atoms.

I thin I was pretty much aware of the thoughts psoted above, but never really did bother to contemplate much on the meaning of them. It seemed to make sense and be true which pissed me off alot. I still haven't gotten over it. Not becuase of what he said, but because that fact that I don't really see a way to rebut this and it might be true. That I am not in control. There was also alot more information which I failed to grasp at the moment which I think did provided an alternative thought. But I'm just curious to know as to what everyone else thinks on the matter.

[Dorian]

Free will, no free will, it's all the same, we do what we do, we choose what we choose. Who's to say anything is anything. What you see as good I see as bad; what you see as red I see as pink. Nothing is everything and visa versa. So the idea of free will exsists and doesn't at the same time. Every decision you make comes from somthing, which comes from somthing else and so on. So I say, free will is the decision to choose, not what you choose.

Let me explain that better:

Free will isn't chooseing that you want BK over Subway. Free will is the fact that you have the choise.

Everything comes from somewhere, the only thing that's ours is the ability to choose.

Free Will = The ability to make a choise.
Free Will != what you choose.

Hope that makes sence, I aint a very good speaker.