Star Wars Episode III, There's no topic on this yet? |
Star Wars Episode III, There's no topic on this yet? |
 May 19 2005, 05:36 AM
Post
#1
|
|
 Tears for Fears  Group: Paragon Caste Posts: 302 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Oklahoma Member No.: 13  |
I just got back from seeing the midnight showing of Return of the Sith, and I'm pleased to say that it didn't suck. It didn't suck so much, in fact, that I actually enjoyed it.
I think Lucas allowing himself to make a PG-13 movie let us see the darker side of the Star Wars story, and I liked it. I don't want to talk about the movie lest I give away spoilers and plot points, but I will say this: there was much butt-kicking to be done, and not just by the Jedi. R2 gets in on the action as well, which was comical but thoroughly enjoyable. I'd rate the movies in this order: Episode 4 Episode 3, 5, and 6 tied Episode 2 Episode 1 Edit: Correct grammar saves lives. -------------------- <center>
 <center>Red <center>1981-2007 |
 |
 
|
 |
|
May 24 2005, 11:01 PM
Post
#2
|
|||||
 Grand Armor Group: AT Certified Posts: 510 Joined: 23-October 03 Member No.: 71 |
That is part of the character since the original triology. Anakin has deep attachment to his family. I agree his motives were not handle as well because Anakin's character arch was not as apparent in Episode I and II (mostly because of the time gap), but I feel Episode III tries to make the most of it. However, all the things that made Anakin go to the darkside was established in the OT. So, if you think how he went to the darkside is weak, then the whole "path to the darkside" in the OT was weak from the start. Its all there in Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. "Once you start down the dark path forever will it dominate your destiny. Consume you it will." "Give in to the darkside. It is the only way to save your friends." From Empire Strikes Back: YODA: Luke! You must complete the training. LUKE: I can't keep the vision out of my head. They're my friends. I've got to help them. YODA: You must not go! LUKE: But Han and Leia will die if I don't. BEN'S VOICE: You don't know that. BEN: Even Yoda cannot see their fate. LUKE: But I can help them! I feel the Force! BEN: But you cannot control it. This is a dangerous time for you, when you will be tempted by the dark side of the Force. YODA: Yes, yes. To Obi-Wan you listen. The cave. Remember your failure at the cave! LUKE: But I've learned so much since then. Master Yoda, I promise to return and finish what I've begun. You have my word. BEN: It is you and your abilities the Emperor wants. that is why your friends are made to suffer. LUKE: And that is why I have to go. BEN: Luke, I don't want to lose you to the Emperor the way I lost Vader. LUKE: You won't. YODA: Stopped they must be. On this depends. Only a fully trained Jedi Knight with the Force as his ally will conquer Vader and his Emperor. If you end your training now, if you choose the quick and easy path, as Vader did, you will become an agent of evil. BEN: Patience. LUKE: And sacrifice Han and Leia? YODA: If you honor what they fight for...yes! Looka like Anakin and Luke faced similar situations to me. The difference is Luke had something to believe in with the rebel alliance trying to take down the evil Empire. Luke had friends that would risk their lives to save him. He is a hero of the rebel alliance, and is the new hope for the alliance. On the other hand, Anakin is this Jedi and he does not really believe in their Jedi dogma to begin with. He breaks the code by marrying Padme. He is not really a hero, though he by the start of Episode III he is on his way to become. Then, the Jedi tell him to do something he is not okay with. Then you have this guy, who is fucking president of the universe, filling his head and telling him he is the best and knows a power to save people from dying. Anakin/Darth Vader has always been impulsive, even since the OT. One of the things most people don't realize in Empire Strikes Back is that the Emperor or Empire has no knowledge that Vader is searching for Luke. His whole plan is to find Luke, turn him to the darkside, and destroy the Emporer and rule the galaxy with Luke. He has no room for failure, hence killing Imperial officers when they fuck up. Going back to episode III, Anakin cutting off Mace's arm was impulsive. Not only that, but Mace would have been assassinating the president of the universe. Anakin was right, regardless if the guy is a sith he needed to be brought to trail. However, Mace and the rest of the Jedi are too caught up in the whole Jedi "must not let Sith come back" dogma to use their judgement. By the time Mace is flying out the window, what other choice does Anakin have? Try and kill the only guy that took the time to understand Anakin over the years and risk being killed and no way to save Padme? I'm not saying this is the best solution to Anakin turning, but Lucas pretty much wrote himself into a corner in the OT when he had a character that is evil, but wanted good to be still in him.
King Arthur vs. The Black Knight. Just like many other things in Star Wars is taken from myths and legends. Besides, I don't think it is within Obi-Wan's character to do something like that. Obi-Wan probably just figured he would die. As for episodes 7, 8 and 9. Lucas stated in an interview years ago (before Episode I released I think) that those episodes were condensed and made into Return of the Jedi. The plan was for episode 6 "Revenge of the Jedi" Luke would kill Darth Vader and become the Emperor's apprentice. Episode 7-9 would be about finding the "other" Yoda was talking about in order to bring Luke back to the good side. Ends up being Leia, and she brings Luke back and destroys the Emperor. The end. Lucus also mentioned that each trilogy would focus on one aspect. He said the prequel trilogy would be polictics, the OT would be war, and the last trilogy would be spiritual. --------------------  |
||||
|
|
|
||||
Zorya Star Wars Episode III May 19 2005, 05:36 AM
DarkEpyon I'll probably see it this weekend with my girl... May 19 2005, 06:43 AM Mute Empire Strikes Back > all others
I'll like... May 19 2005, 04:27 PM Scan_Man I saw the midnight yesterday.
I need to see it ag... May 19 2005, 05:49 PM Bryn I will say it is definitely the best prequel movie... May 20 2005, 06:48 PM Ellianna dang it i wanna go see EP3 so bad but i probably... May 21 2005, 07:27 AM Azrael If you get a chance to go see it after getting set... May 22 2005, 12:04 PM AC9breaker I saw this crap yesterday and I wasn't impress... May 22 2005, 02:28 PM Scan_Man I thought it was a solid Star Wars film. Tied the ... May 22 2005, 09:32 PM Mute QUOTE (Scan_Man @ May 22 2005, 11:32 PM) I thought... May 23 2005, 04:10 PM Dive A flawed but satisfying end to the star wars saga.... May 24 2005, 06:12 AM Dorian There is a rumor that there is going to be a 7 8 a... May 24 2005, 01:28 PM AC9breaker QUOTE (Dorian @ May 24 2005, 01:28 PM) There is a ... May 24 2005, 01:33 PM Wiryu there are rumors, i don't think it'll make... May 24 2005, 02:47 PM Mute QUOTE (Dive @ May 24 2005, 08:12 AM) A flawed but ... May 24 2005, 04:01 PM Dive QUOTE (Mute @ May 24 2005, 04:01 PM)Do you me... May 24 2005, 05:53 PM DJ_Donkey Sorry but I had to do this...
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN... May 24 2005, 06:24 PM Dive hahahaahah
Yes that could have been a very cool ... May 24 2005, 06:34 PM Dive You quote Star Wars like a zealot quotes holy scri... May 24 2005, 11:43 PM Knightsword QUOTE (Scan_Man @ May 25 2005, 12:01 AM)
As for e... May 25 2005, 03:34 AM
Scan_Man Yeah. I would of loved if Anakin's turn was li... May 25 2005, 10:30 AM |
| Lo-Fi Version | Time is now: 17th June 2025 - 12:08 PM |
