Star Wars: The Old Republic, MMOs meet Lightsabers & creet deepz Options

[HC82]

I didn't notice anything in the forums about this recently, but bioware's new Star Wars MMO is slated to be released sometime this year in 2011.

Main site:
http://www.swtor.com/

Cinematic trailer:
http://www.swtor.com/media/trailers/hope-c...railer#comments

Hungry Star Wars nerds:
http://www.swtor.com/media/trailers/pax-ea...highlight-video

[Knightsword]

As for enemy difficulty, you are aware of the Normal - Strong - Elite - Champion ranking for them? As for mobs, lower level vs your level do take a chunk out of the xp rewards, but they exist to give ya something extra, but not required to do, grinding only to level on mobs is staple that should be sent back to the JRPG's that spawned it. Every Western made mmo, I've played, has always been Questing > Grinding for leveling.

As for Space stations, they're cities in space even in Star Wars, they could have mass public transportation and still be in line. In actual buildings, many tunnels, and ships you can't use them. Level 1 Speeders are 8k+ after the 40k training, and give you a 90% speed buff. Sprint if I recall is 30%. Level 2 speeders run 20k+ and 210k training, the buff is 100%. Finally Level 3 speeders are 50k to 1mil+, training is 300K and the buff is 110%. Like most MMO's mounts are luxury items and money sinks, And really credits are by far not hard to get, if you work at it. Space Mission's are just of one easy ways.

As for color crystals big woop, giving everything away for free to level one's isn't how MMO's work, so they made Purple a high level rare, there are still 5 other colors you use or like any other MMO in existence work your way to the goal. If you want to remain casual fine, but again this is still an MMO, and those that put in the time should deserve extra rewards. Also there are static (uncustomizable) Sith only pvp reward sabers with purple colors too. Also there is this one too Magenta. Hell most of the time I have to buy darkside lightsabers to get the orange crystals I use, 15-20k a pop and then upwards to 2k to remove the crystal. There also is chance lower level purple will come available via the legacy system down the line so wait and see.

As for the banned thing, thats a hoax, as you can freely swear in any chat mode, hence the existence of the chat filter if it offends someone.

[tanshin]

As for enemy difficulty, you are aware of the Normal - Strong - Elite - Champion ranking for them? As for mobs, lower level vs your level do take a chunk out of the xp rewards, but they exist to give ya something extra, but not required to do, grinding only to level on mobs is staple that should be sent back to the JRPG's that spawned it. Every Western made mmo, I've played, has always been Questing > Grinding for leveling.

As for Space stations, they're cities in space even in Star Wars, they could have mass public transportation and still be in line. In actual buildings, many tunnels, and ships you can't use them. Level 1 Speeders are 8k+ after the 40k training, and give you a 90% speed buff. Sprint if I recall is 30%. Level 2 speeders run 20k+ and 210k training, the buff is 100%. Finally Level 3 speeders are 50k to 1mil+, training is 300K and the buff is 110%. Like most MMO's mounts are luxury items and money sinks, And really credits are by far not hard to get, if you work at it. Space Mission's are just of one easy ways.

As for color crystals big woop, giving everything away for free to level one's isn't how MMO's work, so they made Purple a high level rare, there are still 5 other colors you use or like any other MMO in existence work your way to the goal. If you want to remain casual fine, but again this is still an MMO, and those that put in the time should deserve extra rewards. Also there are static (uncustomizable) Sith only pvp reward sabers with purple colors too. Also there is this one too Magenta. Hell most of the time I have to buy darkside lightsabers to get the orange crystals I use, 15-20k a pop and then upwards to 2k to remove the crystal. There also is chance lower level purple will come available via the legacy system down the line so wait and see.

As for the banned thing, thats a hoax, as you can freely swear in any chat mode, hence the existence of the chat filter if it offends someone.

Yes sir, I'm aware of the ranking of enemies. Apparently the "higher ranked" ones just require me to hit them a bunch more times. It's the same fight as with a lower ranked guy, just drawn out a bit more. They are less tedious, but only because the champion mobs are usually in a place where you aren't forced to engage them over and over. No one ever said we should be grinding on mobs to level up. But if we were, at least being forced to kill a billion boring things would have some point to it. I like the questing, and love the story. I'm glad that (so far) I haven't needed an 18 man party to advance at any point in the story, too. Those were the days, haha.

Logically, you may be right on about the space stations maybe having some kind of mass transit (which by definition the speeders are not). But relatively speaking, that is a very small space station, definitely not "city in space" size. You're telling me it doesn't seem out of place with how it should be, or doesn't at least urk you a little bit when someone pulls up to the the bar in the cantina to talk to the bartender with a big, hulking, sand-spewing speeder thingy? You've got no problem with the 50 speeder bikes piled into one another at the auction house terminal? It just shouldn't work like that. I don't see how you can rationalize that. I'm not sure how you thought my argument was about money instead of how crappy the speeders are... I have no trouble making money in the game (and I doubt anyone does, since the game experience can seriously be likened to walking through a halloween haunted house in a tightly packed line), and I have enough credits to buy the stupid license, I just don't think it's worth it at all. I'm entitled to that. Did you see how fast speeders are in Return of the Jedi? Sorry, I can't help but be disappointed, no matter how many numbers and percentages you tell me. I guess I'll feel pretty foolish when I'm eating the sand you kick up from the clean polished metal floor in the space station, as you laugh and (very slowly) ride away into the distance like a mall-cop on a segway.

I'm also entitled to think it's stupid that a fully aesthetic feature is an end game item. If I wanted a purple saber (which I don't) I don't even think it would be worth having anymore if I already hit the cap. Just because I think this about aesthetics, doesn't mean I think everything should be handed to us on a silver platter. That is a gross over generalization. Save this carrot-dangling crap for gear with stats so people that care about that crap can donate their life to the game for them. Aesthetics are something that should add flavor to the story, and development of your character. A color should not represent some kind of hollow trophy to stand holding with your saber out in the most crowded spot you can find, along with the 500 other people that have the same thing you do, and don't give a shit. The "excuse" of "it's an MMO, deal with it" doesn't satiate my outrage, because the game is obviously meant to be more than just a typical MMO. And you made my point for me when you said "If you want to remain casual fine, but again this is still an MMO, and those that put in the time should deserve extra rewards." It's as I said in my last post. This game feels to me like it would be better if it weren't an MMO at all.


I'm glad that screenshot was a hoax. Oh, is that what the existence of the chat filter is for? Thanks to your impeccable and objective deductive reasoning, now I know!