MGS4 Gameplay video Options

[Crushinator]

Looks like snake is having some bad acid flashbacks... I like how his face looks like the PSX graphics right before he wakes up.

EDIT: Here's the answer! http://kotaku.com/386418/more-info-about-m...id-4-flashbacks

Seems like a cool feature, especially if your memory needs jogging or you haven't played all the old games.

[Crushinator]

Bone up on your history, son.

[Crushinator]

BONUS:

[Crushinator]

Good spoiler-free impressions of the final game:

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/05/16/joystiq-...-finished-game/

The weapon upgrade system sounds sweet, and giving energy drinks to soldiers is

[AC9breaker]

Fuck yeah part 2 of the Retrospective! Gametrailers is awesome at this.

[Crushinator]

I'm doing a little MGS-retrospecticus of my own to warm up for MGS4. I finished MGS1 a few days ago, and just beat MGS2 now.

MGS1 still holds up IMO, the voiceovers are great, and the cutscenes still have an awesome cinematic appeal. The gampeplay is tight and the action doesn't really let up. The stylized look keeps the 10-year-old graphics from holding it back too much. The only real lull in the game happen when Otacon tells you his shitty life story which seems to take like 15 minutes (my japanese ANIMEEEES) and the temperature changing of the PAL key card. Playing it now feels like they just threw it in to make the game like 20 minutes longer or some crap.

MGS2 on the other hand... damn. The gameplay is still solid (lol punz) as ever, but goddamn they went WAY too overboard with the cutscenes. You literally play the game for maybe 5 minutes a stretch, then some asshole interrupts you with a 5 minute codec. I timed it and the wait from when you finish the tanker chapter to when you can actually touch the controller again and play is no less than 20 damn minutes. And it only gets worse during the Plant chapter. Then the finale of the game is a huge letdown compared to the cavalcade of nonstop action you get in the final moments of MGS1 and 3. You get a way-too-easy battle against the Rays (Followed by 20 minutes of bullshit) and then a short battle against Solids and then its GAME OVER. Gimme a break! I used to look on MGS2 with rose (lol more punz) tinted glasses, but shit man this game is pretty unbearable. Just stick with substance VR/Alternative missions for the actual gameplay.

Onto MGS3 later this week!

[AC9breaker]

I'm doing a little MGS-retrospecticus of my own to warm up for MGS4. I finished MGS1 a few days ago, and just beat MGS2 now.

MGS1 still holds up IMO, the voiceovers are great, and the cutscenes still have an awesome cinematic appeal. The gampeplay is tight and the action doesn't really let up. The stylized look keeps the 10-year-old graphics from holding it back too much. The only real lull in the game happen when Otacon tells you his shitty life story which seems to take like 15 minutes (my japanese ANIMEEEES) and the temperature changing of the PAL key card. Playing it now feels like they just threw it in to make the game like 20 minutes longer or some crap.

MGS2 on the other hand... damn. The gameplay is still solid (lol punz) as ever, but goddamn they went WAY too overboard with the cutscenes. You literally play the game for maybe 5 minutes a stretch, then some asshole interrupts you with a 5 minute codec. I timed it and the wait from when you finish the tanker chapter to when you can actually touch the controller again and play is no less than 20 damn minutes. And it only gets worse during the Plant chapter. Then the finale of the game is a huge letdown compared to the cavalcade of nonstop action you get in the final moments of MGS1 and 3. You get a way-too-easy battle against the Rays (Followed by 20 minutes of bullshit) and then a short battle against Solids and then its GAME OVER. Gimme a break! I used to look on MGS2 with rose (lol more punz) tinted glasses, but shit man this game is pretty unbearable. Just stick with substance VR/Alternative missions for the actual gameplay.

Onto MGS3 later this week!

What!? BLASPHEMY! Dood running around a secret underwater arms development with your cock out and slicing motherfuckers up with a katana? How is that not hardcore? It totally screams Brock Samson if anything and Brock Samson is totally awesome. Then the colonel spazzing out on the intercom" I need scissor s 61" and random asian chicks on your radar screen, WTF? It was a total fucking mind trip. I actually listened to the colonel when the fucking dick told me to turn off my ps2 and and had to redo all the shit because I didn't save it. Plus of course the boss fights are easy now, for one we've already done them. Seconded we've both played Ninja Gaiden Black on highest difficulty. We've progressively become much better gamers weather we've realized it or not. Back when I first played it I remember the Solidus fight being hard as shit. Put it like this, can you really compare the difficulty of the boss fights from part 3 to part 1? Its the same with part 2 and part 1. The games have gotten progressively harder excluding Twin Snakes which actually got easier. I'm sure MGS 4 will continue the trend.

The only thing that I hate about 2 is the ridiculous and blatant use of plot devices. I mean gimmie a god damn mother fucking break the only thing original about the game in that aspect was the opening Tanker chapter. Once you get to Raiden then its fucking MG1/MGS all over again. I could understand Kojima using them in terms of MG1 and MGS1 since many people never played the first one. But from fucking solid to solid 2 it was actually infuriating. A real cop out imo especially considering the awesome job he did in part 3. I personally enjoy the Metal gear story but the execution of it in part was definitely disappointing.


Fuck I think I might go and reserve the MGS ps3 Bundle.

[Crushinator]

What!? BLASPHEMY! Dood running around a secret underwater arms development with your cock out and slicing motherfuckers up with a katana? How is that not hardcore? It totally screams Brock Samson if anything and Brock Samson is totally awesome. Then the colonel spazzing out on the intercom" I need scissor s 61" and random asian chicks on your radar screen, WTF? It was a total fucking mind trip. I actually listened to the colonel when the fucking dick told me to turn off my ps2 and and had to redo all the shit because I didn't save it. Plus of course the boss fights are easy now, for one we've already done them. Seconded we've both played Ninja Gaiden Black on highest difficulty. We've progressively become much better gamers weather we've realized it or not. Back when I first played it I remember the Solidus fight being hard as shit. Put it like this, can you really compare the difficulty of the boss fights from part 3 to part 1? Its the same with part 2 and part 1. The games have gotten progressively harder excluding Twin Snakes which actually got easier. I'm sure MGS 4 will continue the trend.

The only thing that I hate about 2 is the ridiculous and blatant use of plot devices. I mean gimmie a god damn mother fucking break the only thing original about the game in that aspect was the opening Tanker chapter. Once you get to Raiden then its fucking MG1/MGS all over again. I could understand Kojima using them in terms of MG1 and MGS1 since many people never played the first one. But from fucking solid to solid 2 it was actually infuriating. A real cop out imo especially considering the awesome job he did in part 3. I personally enjoy the Metal gear story but the execution of it in part was definitely disappointing.

I agree that the whole Colonel-freaking-out/naked-arsenal-gear section is fucking awesome and trippy, but after that the game goes downhill HARD. From my point of view now, the gameplay of MGS2 is still awesome, but there just isn't enough of it. It feels like Kojima lost sight of what made MGS1 great; the balance between action and drama -- and just put all the time into the cutscenes/codecs. I feel like a lot of the advanced techniques and nuances of the gameplay go unused in the main game itself, and really only come to shine in Substance VR/alt missions where you are forced to think outside the box.

The cutscenes themselves make way too much use of slow-mo for dramatic purposes, it just makes everything drag. Also whenever people are talking face to face, they switch to codec for no goddamn reason, (in game they constantly use the excuse that its "private" but how the hell is it private when YOU'RE STANDING NEXT TO EACH OTHER AND YOU STILL HAVE TO TALK) presumably just so that they didn't have to animate the full scene. It just pulls you out of the cinematic feeling, breaking up the game's flow. Actually now that I think about it, there's a part where Emma says "its hard to put into words" referring to how she feels about Otacon or some shit, then Raiden motions to the codec, like thats some way to communicate where she can reveal her true feelings or some shit? WTF? Is the codec some magical psychic communication? This makes no fucking sense.

And yes the Re-hash of the shadow moses portion of the story is ricockulous. Just an excuse to rehash old game concepts from MGS1 instead of doing something completely original. I think they didn't really know where they were going with this game and just kept adding plot twists and devices as they saw fit. It will be interesting how they tie up this clusterfuck in MGS4.

[Wiryu]

I'll put it in short; Whatever Kojima lost during MGS2, he picked up again when he made MGS3. MGS4 will be boss. ;)

I was thinking, how much of a mind fuck would it be if this whole "old snake" thing were just a charade? I don't really think that's the case, but I still am left with the thought, what is the tactical advantage of looking young or old, unless he's trying to pick up eva and naomi.

[Crushinator]

MGS4 has 90 minute cutscenes:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=189543

We know the Metal Gear Solid series is famous for its long cut-scenes, but this tops everything! Metal Gear Solid 4, the latest instalment in Hideo Kojima's seminal stealth series, has cut-scenes (note the plural) that approach the 90 minutes mark.

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For those troubled with time keeping, that's the length of a feature film.

The news comes from PSW magazine, who's been and finished MGS4, and then promptly whispered in our ears about the shocking 90-minute cut-scenes. The latest issue hits newsstands today, by the way.

We were expecting long story sequences (MGS2 approached the 45 minute mark in one) but an hour and a half of cinematics was unexpected.

The good news is that you can now skip or pause the scenes. Hands up though, how many of you are actually going to sit through the full 90 minutes?

"MGS4's story is massive. The videogame equivalent of all three Godfather movies on one disc," says the mag.

"As you'd expect, you'll spend a lot of time watching cut-scenes, so if you found previous games' story exposition laborious, then you'd better find yourself a nice cushion and plenty of teabags in readiness for MGS4's.

"They can be skipped, but you'll be missing out on some of the finely crafted examples of FMV footage anywhere in gaming," the article boldly proclaims.

Issue 108 of PSW is on sale now.

Keep in mind there are MULTIPLE scenes that are this long, its not just the ending or something. All I gotta say is these had better be FUCKING mind-blowing, or I will seriously have my patience tested by this game.

At least you can pause it to go pee or make a snack though.

[Vitamin D]

Holy shit haha. I hope there's more gameplay than feature length movies in this game.

[tanshin]

The "Gameplay" actually consists of a DVD main menu. Snake run between each choice (Play, special features, etc.) when you highlight them.

Hideo: "Sulplise! You are very shocking to see this!"

[Crushinator]

Part 3!

[AC9breaker]

IGN Wrote

If you’ve ever loved any one of the Metal Gear games, or any moments from the series, there will come a moment when MGS 4 will send your spirits soaring. If you’ve loved them all, well then there’ll be many, many more. It’s a masterpiece. But forget you read that. Go play it and find out for yourself. Because it’s the kind of game that, if you play it after being told it’s a masterpiece, might end up disappointing you because of the hype. So forget the hype. Forget that it’s a magnificent, ground-breaking, masterpiece. Just play it, and enjoy a dazzling, heart-lifting, voyage of discovery.

Man, 10 days left and I only have 200 dollars. :(

Also you guys should check out the Bonus Round videos on Gametrailers TV.com Interesting stuff. Interview with David Hayter.

[Crushinator]

I'm trying to go on media blackout for the game now until it launches. Now that people are playing the final version there's lots of opportunity for spoilers to hit the net and ruin the surprises!