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AC9breaker
post Aug 12 2010, 04:48 PM
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In any event. I've already pre purchased my copy of 14, collectors edition of course. At the same time though, I'm also eyeballing Guild Wars 2. That recent trailer they unveiled looks all kinds of jawsome.


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Scan_Man
post Aug 12 2010, 05:35 PM
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WALL OF TEXT!

Response to Tanshin:

I am just giving my opinion. The content of opinions are up for discussion, but basically should be taken for a grain of salt. Nothing to "emo" over. If you have something to say about the game (as in gameplay or other musings), or disagree, say it. Talk about the actual game. I asked you questions, so I could possibly adjust my opinions based on someone who had first hand information. You declined to answer, which is your right.

However, I'm here to talk about this game, in its current form, based on information I am able to gather. What I think of it too. Retorting with that it is just a "Beta" talk, does not lead to any kind of discussion of this game. I understand that it is a Beta. Developers have an NDA because they don't want people talking about an unfinished product. However, there are people out there that are interested in knowing how the game is coming along, me included. They may not have beta access, or they may but not have the time to play. That is my audience, if it is not clear to you. Most of all, I love talking about game mechanics, and what that means for users, in detail. It is a passion of mine. I understand most people don't care, or it is beyond their scope of what they wish to discuss. But it is something, I like to talk about regardless if no one is listening. That is what passion is all about.

Sounds like you trying to start drama because saying things like "secretly rolling my eye" is dismissive passive aggressiveness directed towards me. So, if I got your engines revved up, I say good! I don't care if you have a problem with what I say, but I will not let that kind of hostility directed towards me slide.

You said you tried to hold off not saying anything because to not start drama. Why wait until now? If I were to take what you said literally, then your choice of words have failed that stated purposes. Again, why now? What makes now so safe for you to come out of your hole?

Saying stuff like "secretly rolling my eye" is a dick move. And you know it. Which why you put your "Did not want to start drama" disclaimer, to try and soften it. Stop. I am not fooled by such. You basically told me how your intentions are going to come off.

Not everyone emotionally attaches to things he or she says, or what other say, like you may do (I assume). For me, I expect disagreement, welcome it, and respect it. I would never dismiss someone because their point of view differs from mine because that stifles discussion. But, make no mistake I am going to defend my position.




Me editorializing in response to Tanshin's points:

Let me clarify something. Most of the things I write here are lifted from articles I wrote on my blog, or other forums, sometimes copied and pasted. That is why they are long (sometimes lifted from two or more entries). Also, I try to use enough detail in my writing to where I think there won't be a misunderstanding, or ways to misconstrue what I wrote.

People that follow my blog, or twitter, are interested in my current opinions on gaming, MMOs including WoW and FFXIV. I posted my thoughts here on FFXIV versus WoW because it is a FFXIV thread. I don't like some of the decision Square is making in relation to this game, which for me helps my buying decision.

I also assume, that most people here are not into WoW. Thus, know very little comparatively about the current state of the game. Its successes, problems, and failures. Competition has an influence. And WoW is FFXIV's competition. So it difficult to talk about one without mentioning the other because obviously FFXIV is being influenced by WoW. Believe me, I have more things to say on this, that I am saving because I writing a MMO buying guide.


A game forum is for discussing games and opinion of games. Plus, ultimately I am the one that has to make a decision to buy this game. And for FFXIV, my decision is going to be based on if it is worth my time over WoW. I have the right to have expectations because it is my money and time. I choose to determine how I am going spend those. I can only make a decision based on the information at hand. I am not a "wait and see" person. If I took a "wait and see" approach, then that means I am already making a mental investment to hold out for that thing to get better; which may not happen. Thus, I will miss out on potential better opportunities or mental investments available to me in the now that have a higher chance of working out. Not saying my way is right for everyone, but works for me. I am a "think about it today, forget about it tomorrow if it no longer holds my interest" type of person. So agree to disagree here.

And no one is saying a game should be the next WoW. But, there is no reason why a game should not strive to be the next step in MMOs like WoW was to Everquest. Why should I invest time and money in something if I have something that is better? Not only that, but there is a cheaper solution for what is essentially the same type of gameplay at its very core.

WoW has more content, and more features per dollar than FFXIV. That is a fact. Not to FFXIV's fault for being new. But, my beef is the pricing for FFXIV in regards with this. FFXIV is $12 for one character. I understand the arguments in favor of this. But those arguments ignore that people may want to play a different race, or have an alt on another server. This pricing point alienates a large portion of the MMO player base. The price is very steep to ask for someone coming from other MMOs such as WoW. And that is the point of view I am representing here. FFXIV borrows from WoW in a lot of places, so I think comparisons are fair. WoW rips from a lot of other games too.

I do have problems with WoW. A lot of them even. I still think it is the best MMO option out there. I give credit where credit is due. I extend this to FFXIV, or any MMO out there.

Like I said in another post, if you are coming from FFXI, or not currently playing any MMOs, this point of view does not pertain to you. Nor should it.

On a side note, discussion on this forum is abysmal these days. I know you guys save it for the podcast, which is excellent. But it would be nice to have a forum discussion once in a while like back in the old days. Lastly, I tend to play devil's advocate to get some discussion going; not just here, but on my blog. I get some of you may not be bothered with having other responsibilities to attend to.



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post Aug 12 2010, 05:43 PM
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Scan_Man
post Aug 12 2010, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE(AC9breaker @ Aug 12 2010, 04:48 PM) *
In any event. I've already pre purchased my copy of 14, collectors edition of course. At the same time though, I'm also eyeballing Guild Wars 2. That recent trailer they unveiled looks all kinds of jawsome.



Yes! Guild Wars 2 is another game on my radar. I loved the first one though expansions not that great in my opinion. But, I played it casually, so maybe I would enjoyed it more had I had devoted more time to see more of the content.

I know I'm seriously thinking about renewing my Aion sub for Aion 2.0. When Aion was launched it had none of the features they promised back when the game was just concept art. Then a month after release they showed the Aion 2.0 trailers with all the promised features. I was like wow! Why was this not ready? Here we are almost a year later.

Also, Torchlight 2 was announced. Going to have the much needed multiplayer.

So there is a lot of options out there. I say pick your poison. FFXIV is stuck in the middle between a lot of other games right now, I'm torn.

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post Aug 12 2010, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE(AC9breaker @ Aug 12 2010, 03:48 PM) *
In any event. I've already pre purchased my copy of 14, collectors edition of course. At the same time though, I'm also eyeballing Guild Wars 2. That recent trailer they unveiled looks all kinds of jawsome.


Ok, if you're doing it, I'm doing it. I'll get the CE, you twisted my arm.


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Alisha
post Aug 12 2010, 06:04 PM
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QUOTE(Crushinator @ Aug 12 2010, 06:42 PM) *
QUOTE(Alisha @ Aug 12 2010, 04:17 PM) *
gimme some dish on armor. the bandana is a nice ode to your old fone. i HATED rainbow armor in FFXI. to the point that sometimes i wore inferior armor so i wasnt wearing like orange and green and grey shit.





i was talking to scan crush my love!


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Scan_Man
post Aug 12 2010, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE(Alisha @ Aug 12 2010, 06:04 PM) *
QUOTE(Crushinator @ Aug 12 2010, 06:42 PM) *
QUOTE(Alisha @ Aug 12 2010, 04:17 PM) *
gimme some dish on armor. the bandana is a nice ode to your old fone. i HATED rainbow armor in FFXI. to the point that sometimes i wore inferior armor so i wasnt wearing like orange and green and grey shit.





i was talking to scan crush my love!


Yeah I will try to take more pics. It is annoying because there is no screen cap feature right now. So I am using printscreen and MS Paint. Unless someone can recommend a free screen cap software, that does not take low res pics. It would not be a problem if alt+tabing did not crash the game like it did in FFXI.

The armor variety for low level is kind of impressive compared to other MMOs. And does not look bad if you are mismatched.

Edit: By the way Alisha was referring to my fonewearl on PSO. She had a bandanna.

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HC82
post Aug 13 2010, 04:46 AM
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Wall of text for the win. I like to read walls of text, assuming it has value. The AT boards don't have much discussion, actually, so it's not always a bad thing to express an opinion.


Also, FFXIV will sucks balls because anything FF that's online has sucked, will suck and can only suck worse then the suckiest of the sucky suck sucks. So, my final conclusion from not playing the beta and being a blind FF fanboy is that the game has to suck because my opinion dictates absolute truth of reality, thus everyone must be offended... right now!

By the way WoW sucks too. I stopped playing it because its a waste of time and money. I can do something meaningful like educate myself and my mind. I'll be damned if I don't get the next rare loot drop that becomes useless in 6 months, while my real world body wastes away as I drink mountain dew and eat doritos.

I mean really. Why do people play video games anyway? It's a huge waste of time and anyone who plays video games is a total loser. Go do something constructive, like get a Doctorate Degree in real world awesomeness.

For that matter, don't go to the movie, or watch TV, surf the internet or read a book for entertainment. It's all useless, because we're soulless fleshbots.

With that said, MMORPGs suck, as do video games, life in general, and everyone who reads this. So, on that note, I'm going to take out my Super Mario Galaxy 2 game from it's shrink wrap and pre order FFXIV, since I just bought a new PC for for gaming.

Cheers.
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Scan_Man
post Aug 13 2010, 03:07 PM
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LOL! Bravo HC!


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post Aug 14 2010, 09:50 AM
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Look, I haven't played a game with most of you in years but if you have me on facebook, which, I'm sure only Scan does. Tell me what server you guys are planning on getting on. I already have a few competent friends starting FF14 with me.

Also, hi!

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Scan_Man
post Aug 14 2010, 06:06 PM
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Of course subject to change. But, if you want to tentatively designate a server for organization purposes. Here is the list:


Gabranth
Garland
Golbez
Emperor
Exdeath
Jecht
Kefka
Ultimecia
Sephiroth
Shadowlord
Xande

Server names are named after FF villains. Shadowlord is the most populated server in the beta. Not surprising.


Also another wave of beta invites should be going out soon. So if anyone gets on the beta, I am on Jecht.

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post Aug 14 2010, 06:36 PM
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I'm up for any server, really. I just want to have an idea of where we'd go so I can start telling people in the group I made on facebook, you know?


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post Aug 15 2010, 10:37 AM
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I don't think any of us are really planning a designated server. Although I'd rather stick to a server thats medium populated. I was just planning on starting out wherever and then sending invites to people like that. If anything I'm definitely gonna try to stay away from the more heavily populated servers.


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post Aug 15 2010, 02:09 PM
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Did they do away with the bullshit friend passes and random server crap from FF11? That was the biggest load of shit, not being able to instantly group with your friends at the launch of the game.


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post Aug 15 2010, 02:16 PM
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I'm getting the CE. So I'll be there early, just keep me updated. I'll be watching the forums, regardless.


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