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Alisha
post Aug 4 2009, 03:05 PM
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http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/04/final-fa...new-job-system/

The latest edition of Famitsu Wave recently hit newsstands in Japan, bringing with it a DVD which contains an 8-minute exposť on Square Enix's second stab at the MMO genre, Final Fantasy XIV. The whole video is posted after the break. Fret not -- it sports convenient English subtitles.

Here's some of the more titillating excerpts: The game features a reinvented character progression system which does not include experience points or leveling up. The job system from XI will make an appearance, but in a heavily altered form -- an interview with the game's director, Nobuaki Komoto, revealed that the game will place a focus on the weapons players use, explaining that your armaments will determine "the way you play" and "the way you grow." Sounds reminiscent of Final Fantasy IX. (That's a very good thing.)

In addition, FFXIV producer Hiromichi Tanaka explained that the game takes place in a new region with a more "modern" feel to it -- the mysterious Eorzea which was mentioned in the trailer. The new world features familiar races (albeit with new names), and plays host to a "deep story," which is told through cut-scenes and quests. For more FFXIV info than you can possibly handle, check the video after the jump.


sounds similar to monster hunter no?

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Someone translated the text on BG Forums regarding the characters:

"When you make your character, aside from choosing the race, you will also be able to customize their appearance. Head, skin color, hair type etc, there will be multiple factors. Just how exact we will be able to customize their appearance is still unknown, but we mean it in a good way when we say that it seems like it will become a worry to many players."


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Scan_Man
post Jun 17 2010, 11:32 PM
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Compared to a controller, using good keybindings with a keyboard and mouse allows you to multitask with greater efficiency (I'm speaking strictly about MMORPGs). Scrolling to find abilities and then activating them takes longer than pressing a specific key you have memorized. Yes muscle memory does help, in both setups. But, keyboard and mouse with keybindings will always come out ahead because you also don't lose functionality such as moving your character, controlling the camera, targeting, when activating an ability. In some cases, a controller user has to lose one function in the control scheme in order to scroll through and use an ability, same goes for other types of tasks. On the other hand, a keyboard and mouse user can do all those tasks simultaneously.

Targeting suffers the most on the controller because you have to cycle through targets, while with a mouse you can point and click the person or enemy. There seems to be a lot of abilities in this game, and things could get messy when you have them all at your disposal. Not to mention you are going to need macros on your bar too for times when you need to share vital information with your party.

They are unfortunate because they likely do not have a PC able to play this game: which I hear the game looks gorgeous on a powerful rig. Nor think, or unable, to maybe use some kind of keyboard and controller setup. Unlike FFXI, FFXIV is being designed and tested with the PC version as a priority. So certain things in the user interface and control scheme may not translate well on a console. The context sensitive action bar helps though. It grays out what you can't use but lights up what you can use at the given moment based on some context. Basically narrowing down your options to a few abilities, so you can find the one you need faster. It reduces the disparity between the two control schemes, keyboard/mouse or controller. The slow combat reduces the disparity too. Sadly, these are just some of the design choices they have to make in order to successfully make the game work for both platforms, which will likely being playing together. Without these design choices the PC users would have a very large advantage over PS3 users. Square seems to be trying their best to find a middle ground, ie speeding up combat through the attack gauge, and adding the context sensitive action bar.

I don't think there will be many of these unfortunate people outside of Japan though. But I think it is great Square is actually trying to polish the user interface in order to be most viable for both versions. FFXI on PC suffered greatly for being a port of a PS2 game.

But it has to be said: Playing a MMORPG with a controller is doing it wrong. This is partly why you don't see many MMORPGs on consoles.

This post has been edited by Scan_Man: Jun 18 2010, 12:08 AM


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post Jun 18 2010, 07:33 AM
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QUOTE(Scan_Man @ Jun 17 2010, 10:32 PM) *
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While testing the alpha for FFXIV, I've been experimenting with both the keyboard and the controller. I don't feel like reading your wall of text, but there is virtually no difference between the two at all other than I find it much more relaxing to sit back and relax with a controller in my hand. You can use the D-pad to scroll back and forth between all the choices on the action menu, and given the fact that you can't do two moves at the same time, it doesn't matter how much faster you can tap "5" on a keyboard than the 1 second it might take to scroll over to it with the d-pad. Crush and I also used controllers in ffxi, and we were great players, and I don't think we were "doing it wrong".

Rest assured, Alisha, your way of using the controller in the game is still intact.


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Alisha   FFXIVstuff   Aug 4 2009, 03:05 PM
Crushinator   The characters look nice, a big improvement over (...   Aug 4 2009, 05:41 PM
AC9breaker   Fuck yeah dood, Galka brotherhood 4 li4e. You guy...   Aug 4 2009, 06:50 PM
Crushinator   Direct translations from the Famitsu article court...   Aug 5 2009, 05:51 AM
tanshin   After reading all this new info, I can't help but ...   Aug 5 2009, 10:37 AM
Knightsword   Hopefully they also get rid of that annoying extra...   Aug 5 2009, 05:40 PM
Alisha   obviously we need to know more but i don't like th...   Aug 6 2009, 06:19 PM
Crushinator   QUOTE(Alisha @ Aug 6 2009, 05:19 PM) obvi...   Aug 6 2009, 10:13 PM
HC82   QUOTE(Crushinator @ Aug 6 2009, 10:13 PM)...   Aug 7 2009, 09:44 AM
AC9breaker   I don't know, it makes the game sound like PSU and...   Aug 6 2009, 09:07 PM
Alisha   QUOTE(AC9breaker @ Aug 6 2009, 11:07 PM) ...   Aug 10 2009, 03:10 PM
Crushinator   QUOTE(Alisha @ Aug 10 2009, 02:10 PM) i o...   Aug 10 2009, 09:41 PM
Crushinator   Some in-game screens posted at Kotaku: http://kot...   Aug 8 2009, 07:03 PM
Wiryu   It's because of monster hunter I feel really good ...   Aug 14 2009, 06:43 PM
Alisha   gameplay videos Video Games | Final Fanta...   Aug 19 2009, 04:36 PM
Crushinator   Blast! I was just here to post those! Yeah it loo...   Aug 19 2009, 04:58 PM
Vitamin D   It certainly seems that they're trying to rope bac...   Aug 19 2009, 05:08 PM
Crushinator   Video Games | Final Fantasy XIV Online | GC 09: La...   Aug 19 2009, 05:11 PM
Crushinator   RE: FFXIVstuff   Sep 24 2009, 02:30 AM
Alisha   mega boss. i'm geussing thats the games opening cu...   Sep 25 2009, 04:34 PM
Crushinator   From RPGsite: QUOTEPS3 fans who want to beta test...   Oct 2 2009, 03:17 PM
Scan_Man   About the DirectX9 thing. From what I heard the ma...   Oct 2 2009, 09:38 PM
Knightsword   And if I recall only ati has launch its dx11 cards...   Oct 2 2009, 09:54 PM
Crushinator   But on that same token, the developers for FF14 ha...   Oct 3 2009, 10:06 PM
AC9breaker   Not only that but, of course the people won't buy ...   Oct 4 2009, 12:01 AM
Alisha   QUOTE(AC9breaker @ Oct 4 2009, 02:01 AM) ...   Oct 7 2009, 03:49 PM
Crushinator   QUOTE(Alisha @ Oct 7 2009, 02:49 PM) but ...   Oct 7 2009, 04:04 PM
Wiryu   Least of my concerns. If it only supported Dx3 my ...   Oct 6 2009, 02:55 PM
Knightsword   I would rather have it be dx9 and usable by all th...   Oct 6 2009, 04:37 PM
Crushinator   Making a game DX10 compatible does not preclude it...   Oct 7 2009, 01:46 AM
HC82   All these stats hurt my brain (well not really), a...   Oct 7 2009, 06:42 AM
Crushinator   Yeah I'll admit I kinda lost my way toward the end...   Oct 7 2009, 03:42 PM
Crushinator   http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/ Updates on the off...   Oct 8 2009, 12:37 AM
Scan_Man   LOL at the Armoury section with the Leeroy example...   Oct 8 2009, 09:18 PM
Crushinator   PC version beta signups are a GO! http://entry.ff...   Dec 17 2009, 03:54 AM
AC9breaker   Applied! So yeah the last question was Do you run...   Dec 18 2009, 04:59 AM
Alisha   some screenshots someone posted on another board f...   Dec 18 2009, 02:04 PM
Crushinator   Looks hot. Now how about they actually reveal som...   Dec 18 2009, 05:31 PM
Alisha   some character creation info http://www.ffxivcore...   Dec 22 2009, 05:13 PM
Crushinator   Those crabs are fucking awesome. Good to see ther...   Dec 22 2009, 06:54 PM
Alisha   some old some new http://www.ffxivhq.com/reposit/...   Jan 10 2010, 01:43 PM
AC9breaker   YOU'VE ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD!   Jan 10 2010, 11:29 PM
donkeybeatz   RE: FFXIVstuff   Jan 11 2010, 11:59 AM
Vitamin D   LMAO X2.   Jan 11 2010, 05:51 PM
Alisha   a copy and paste job for you! QUOTESo drama has b...   Feb 23 2010, 07:06 PM
AC9breaker   How much money you figure he could get for that? ...   Feb 23 2010, 07:17 PM
Crushinator   Call me when we can actually get a beta in english...   Feb 23 2010, 07:29 PM
Alisha   QUOTE(Crushinator @ Feb 23 2010, 08:29 PM...   Feb 25 2010, 03:33 PM
Crushinator   http://www.destructoid.com/final-fantasy-x...11-16...   Mar 1 2010, 02:33 AM
AC9breaker   I'm pretty doubtful. It seems like they're gonna ...   Mar 1 2010, 07:10 AM
Crushinator   I knew i should have set my excitement for FF14 as...   Mar 1 2010, 02:30 PM
Alisha   this isnt ffXIV related but the level cap in ffxi ...   Mar 1 2010, 04:34 PM
AC9breaker   Apparently the invites have only been sent to peop...   Mar 1 2010, 06:43 PM
Alisha   QUOTE(AC9breaker @ Mar 1 2010, 07:43 PM) ...   Mar 1 2010, 07:01 PM
Crushinator   That level cap raise seems really stupid. Its lik...   Mar 2 2010, 01:15 AM
Wiryu   I'm just too curious to stay away!   Mar 6 2010, 12:00 PM
Crushinator   Apparently if you buy the PS3 version of FF13, you...   Mar 9 2010, 02:22 PM
Crushinator   http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/4268-famits...ki-le...   Mar 10 2010, 05:40 PM
Alisha   this url has a boat load of pics http://www.famits...   Mar 11 2010, 06:05 PM
AC9breaker   I'm rolling Galka Archer and Maybe Marauder.   Mar 11 2010, 10:09 PM
Crushinator   The officiall AT linkshell will be "Bro". You can...   Mar 12 2010, 01:49 PM
Alisha   the official jp site has been updated and you can ...   Mar 12 2010, 06:12 PM
AC9breaker   Just reached the first save point for in FFXIII an...   Mar 13 2010, 10:55 AM
Crushinator   The different "Tribes" from FF14. So I guess we ...   Mar 31 2010, 01:42 PM
AC9breaker   Looking fantastic. I just hope the framerate isn't...   Mar 31 2010, 05:14 PM
Crushinator   Alpha Test users' manual: QUOTEFINAL FANTASY XIV A...   Apr 2 2010, 04:39 PM
tanshin   Good info there, that answers a lot of the questio...   Apr 3 2010, 03:47 PM
Alisha   lol it seems a ton of people are getting banned fo...   Apr 9 2010, 05:39 PM
Crushinator   Ace reporter Alisha, on the scene!   Apr 9 2010, 06:00 PM
Alisha   QUOTE(Crushinator @ Apr 9 2010, 08:00 PM)...   Apr 9 2010, 06:38 PM
tanshin   QUOTE(Alisha @ Apr 9 2010, 05:38 PM) QUOT...   Apr 11 2010, 03:24 AM
Crushinator   From what I understand, the person posting the you...   Apr 11 2010, 05:44 PM
Bilix   First one to name a Hume Justin Beiber wins a priz...   Apr 15 2010, 01:53 PM
AC9breaker   Looks more like a taru to me.   Apr 15 2010, 02:56 PM
Scan_Man   I can't wait. I love the music previews on the mai...   Apr 18 2010, 09:55 PM
Alisha   QUOTE(Scan_Man @ Apr 18 2010, 11:55 PM) I...   Apr 19 2010, 05:13 PM
Scan_Man   Yeah I saw that. But the other one lacks a group h...   Apr 19 2010, 10:33 PM
Alisha   the only mmo ive played where you need group heals...   Apr 21 2010, 09:30 AM
Scan_Man   Apparently there are 2 more caster classes, among ...   Apr 21 2010, 03:42 PM
tanshin   QUOTE(Scan_Man @ Apr 21 2010, 02:42 PM) T...   Apr 24 2010, 11:13 AM
Scan_Man   There is over 2.5 million, there will be more when...   Apr 24 2010, 05:52 PM
Alisha   click here mang http://killingifrit.com/forums/to...   May 18 2010, 04:46 PM
Crushinator   So in other words final fantasy has caught up to w...   May 18 2010, 05:19 PM
Alisha   well i've only played 3 mmo's asherons call, ffxi ...   May 18 2010, 06:29 PM
tanshin   Well, long story short, I've been chosen to partic...   Jun 7 2010, 09:34 PM
Crushinator   Awesome, keep us updated on the front lines with w...   Jun 8 2010, 01:25 AM
Crushinator   It wouldn't be Final Fantasy online if you weren't...   Jun 16 2010, 04:48 PM
Alisha   QUOTE(Crushinator @ Jun 16 2010, 06:48 PM...   Jun 16 2010, 05:34 PM
Crushinator   I didn't post the 2nd report because its just a bu...   Jun 16 2010, 05:51 PM
Alisha   QUOTE(Crushinator @ Jun 16 2010, 07:51 PM...   Jun 16 2010, 06:34 PM
Scan_Man   I really like how the action bar changes based on ...   Jun 17 2010, 03:20 AM
Alisha   unfortunate? i actually preferred playing ffxi on ...   Jun 17 2010, 05:25 PM
Scan_Man   Compared to a controller, using good keybindings w...   Jun 17 2010, 11:32 PM
tanshin   QUOTE(Scan_Man @ Jun 17 2010, 10:32 PM) t...   Jun 18 2010, 07:33 AM
Crushinator   I guess this belongs here.   Jun 18 2010, 03:46 AM
Scan_Man   I explained why there is little difference between...   Jun 18 2010, 04:59 PM
Crushinator   http://www.joystiq.com/2010/06/30/final-fa...ch-20...   Jun 30 2010, 10:32 PM
Scan_Man   Those are very shitty release dates for both versi...   Jun 30 2010, 10:55 PM
AC9breaker   That's a good question Scan_man. guess I'm gonna...   Jul 1 2010, 12:04 AM
Scan_Man   Well I am in the beta. Guess I'll see for myself.   Jul 12 2010, 09:55 PM
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