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Alisha
post Aug 4 2009, 03:05 PM
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http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/04/final-fa...new-job-system/

The latest edition of Famitsu Wave recently hit newsstands in Japan, bringing with it a DVD which contains an 8-minute exposť on Square Enix's second stab at the MMO genre, Final Fantasy XIV. The whole video is posted after the break. Fret not -- it sports convenient English subtitles.

Here's some of the more titillating excerpts: The game features a reinvented character progression system which does not include experience points or leveling up. The job system from XI will make an appearance, but in a heavily altered form -- an interview with the game's director, Nobuaki Komoto, revealed that the game will place a focus on the weapons players use, explaining that your armaments will determine "the way you play" and "the way you grow." Sounds reminiscent of Final Fantasy IX. (That's a very good thing.)

In addition, FFXIV producer Hiromichi Tanaka explained that the game takes place in a new region with a more "modern" feel to it -- the mysterious Eorzea which was mentioned in the trailer. The new world features familiar races (albeit with new names), and plays host to a "deep story," which is told through cut-scenes and quests. For more FFXIV info than you can possibly handle, check the video after the jump.


sounds similar to monster hunter no?

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Someone translated the text on BG Forums regarding the characters:

"When you make your character, aside from choosing the race, you will also be able to customize their appearance. Head, skin color, hair type etc, there will be multiple factors. Just how exact we will be able to customize their appearance is still unknown, but we mean it in a good way when we say that it seems like it will become a worry to many players."


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Scan_Man
post Aug 27 2010, 03:42 PM
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All really good points.

When it comes MMOs I try to stick up for different people's playstyles. People's reasons for playing these games are never the same. So, when a choice by the developer restricts a particular player's playstyle I hardly ever find it a good thing. Some people like trying all the classes, others don't. Some don't like crafting, others do. Some people, all they want to do is make money by selling stuff; never touching any other part of the game. I see MMOs as giving you options. There should never be something in place to kind of force you one direction or another. It is about freedom within a virtual open world.The people bitching about Surplus, I think deep down feel like this system does not offer the freedom they expect from this type of game.

It is easy to say "go play something else." But if I was Square, I would not want to turn people away from the game. From the interviews they seem to think they know how players will play, and everything will go to their planned design. And they are wrong. Players are creative, inventive, and unpredictable.

They thought their Surplus cap was high enough for their "8 hours" of play. However, experienced players found a way to level more efficiently. Thus, hitting the cap a lot sooner. They admitted this on the front page of the beta forums yesterday. How a MMO is played will always be dictated by the players in end; it is the nature of a virtual world.

How they are played is mostly dictated by the hardcore players. Squares want to shift this balance, much the same way Blizzard has tried in WoW, and I commend them for it. However, the hardcores are the ones that write the efficient leveling guides, they are the ones that figure out which skills are the best for situation A or B, and they are the ones likely to stick with the game to the end. They know the game in and out. People with less time follow what the hardcores say to do because it is the best way, most optimal, or most efficient way of playing the game. Which is very attractive to someone who does not have much time to play comparatively. Besides, no ones wants to be called a "fucking noob." That is the social part of it.



Whether it affects the average player or not, it has hurt this game already. But, people will find a new thing to bitch about if Surplus is not an issue. Before the Surplus, people were bitching about the Market Wards, and there being no Auction House any time soon. It is simple things like this that are usually taken for granted in other MMOs that Square has intentionally left out, or not considered. In my opinion though, it is the system requirements that is going to hurt this game the most once open beta starts.

More on the issue here is Square is telling people how much time they should spend on the game that they are paying monthly for. The majority of people are not going to see it as "well the typical player will never run into Surplus, so there is no problem." They see the possibility of a restriction because a player's play time can vary day to day; like weekends. Generally, people want play at the pace they think they are getting their money's worth. Then you factor in the game being 12 bucks a month for one character. I'm sure for a lot folks out there, this is a lot to ask.


A lot of people are not factoring in that once the game goes live there will still be the 48 guildleve cooldown. When I say the Surplus system will hinder people, I am referring to it in combination with the 48 hour cooldown on quests.

Once you do your 8 guildleves, or whatever the max you can take at live is, you are done. Guildleves is the most efficient way to gain exp. So, after those are done, it depends on the player. Square wants you to group up with others that are running group guildleves, so you can repeat those ones you just did (besides soloing guildleves is more optimal, so how often will you find a group doing them?). Like I said in the other post, doing this for two days will have you reach your caps sooner. However, if you just log off for two days, then you might get some of your time to refresh. It might be better to just use your time on the solo guildleves every two days. You have the option to do other things. Though depending on what else you find appealing in the game, you may be penalized by this system. Basically, if you do not like the other options in the moment compared to your main interest (ie. want to play your main job, and you don't want to craft). I won't be surprised if people complain about there being "nothing to do but log out" because of reaching caps and cooldowns. I worry about player retention with such a system.


Anyway. . . Open beta is next week. I hope the other areas are better. After about 100 hours on this game, I am sick of Limsa Lominsa.

This post has been edited by Scan_Man: Aug 27 2010, 03:50 PM


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Alisha   FFXIVstuff   Aug 4 2009, 03:05 PM
Crushinator   Can't wait to hear how this stacks up to World of ...   Jul 12 2010, 10:11 PM
Scan_Man   LOL! Maybe comparisons later when I get my Catacly...   Jul 12 2010, 10:25 PM
Scan_Man   Testing was canceled for this weekend. Did play it...   Jul 18 2010, 03:33 PM
Crushinator   I like hearing that the quests are like the FF12/1...   Jul 18 2010, 03:50 PM
Scan_Man   Well I have 14 hours under my belt on this game. E...   Jul 24 2010, 12:44 PM
Crushinator   How do you unlock Marth?   Jul 24 2010, 01:36 PM
AC9breaker   Why do kids love cinnamon toast crunch?   Jul 24 2010, 01:49 PM
Crushinator   Why do they call it Apple Jacks when it doesn't ta...   Jul 24 2010, 03:04 PM
donkeybeatz   More importantly, why do they call it Grape-Nuts w...   Jul 24 2010, 04:01 PM
Scan_Man   There is a rainbow lucky charm in the rainbow of L...   Jul 24 2010, 07:05 PM
Crushinator   QUOTE(Scan_Man @ Jul 24 2010, 07:05 PM) T...   Jul 24 2010, 08:16 PM
Scan_Man   Phase 2 of the beta will start tonight. Servers wi...   Jul 28 2010, 01:15 PM
Scan_Man   Phase 3 started. So pretty much this version of th...   Aug 11 2010, 05:39 AM
Kazicht   Good info! I'm relieved about the control and batt...   Aug 11 2010, 11:20 AM
AC9breaker   So now the real question, is anyone here planning ...   Aug 11 2010, 01:16 PM
Crushinator   All depends on if I get a new computer up by then....   Aug 11 2010, 02:23 PM
Scan_Man   The changes have actually made this game enjoyable...   Aug 11 2010, 03:24 PM
tanshin   I didn't want to say anything at the risk of drama...   Aug 12 2010, 01:34 PM
Alisha   i'll be waiting for ps3 release. but at least phan...   Aug 12 2010, 04:17 PM
Crushinator   QUOTE(Alisha @ Aug 12 2010, 04:17 PM) gim...   Aug 12 2010, 04:42 PM
Alisha   QUOTE(Crushinator @ Aug 12 2010, 06:42 PM...   Aug 12 2010, 06:04 PM
Scan_Man   QUOTE(Alisha @ Aug 12 2010, 06:04 PM) QUO...   Aug 12 2010, 06:23 PM
AC9breaker   In any event. I've already pre purchased my copy o...   Aug 12 2010, 04:48 PM
Scan_Man   QUOTE(AC9breaker @ Aug 12 2010, 04:48 PM)...   Aug 12 2010, 05:51 PM
tanshin   QUOTE(AC9breaker @ Aug 12 2010, 03:48 PM)...   Aug 12 2010, 06:02 PM
Scan_Man   WALL OF TEXT! Response to Tanshin: I am just giv...   Aug 12 2010, 05:35 PM
Vitamin D   RE: FFXIVstuff   Aug 12 2010, 05:43 PM
HC82   Wall of text for the win. I like to read walls of ...   Aug 13 2010, 04:46 AM
Scan_Man   LOL! Bravo HC!   Aug 13 2010, 03:07 PM
Afroforce   Look, I haven't played a game with most of you in ...   Aug 14 2010, 09:50 AM
Scan_Man   Of course subject to change. But, if you want to t...   Aug 14 2010, 06:06 PM
Afroforce   I'm up for any server, really. I just want to have...   Aug 14 2010, 06:36 PM
AC9breaker   I don't think any of us are really planning a desi...   Aug 15 2010, 10:37 AM
Crushinator   Did they do away with the bullshit friend passes a...   Aug 15 2010, 02:09 PM
AC9breaker   QUOTE(Crushinator @ Aug 15 2010, 04:09 PM...   Aug 15 2010, 02:32 PM
Afroforce   I'm getting the CE. So I'll be there early, just k...   Aug 15 2010, 02:16 PM
Wiryu   That could potentially just be a 14-day free trial...   Aug 15 2010, 02:44 PM
Scan_Man   Picking your server is part of the character creat...   Aug 15 2010, 03:11 PM
AC9breaker   Actually what is the max population for a server? ...   Aug 15 2010, 03:39 PM
Scan_Man   The max population is indicated by 4 chocobos next...   Aug 15 2010, 05:31 PM
AC9breaker   Ugh, right now I think the biggest thing holding m...   Aug 15 2010, 06:56 PM
Scan_Man   Here is the recommended specs to run the game smoo...   Aug 15 2010, 09:41 PM
Crushinator   QUOTE(Scan_Man @ Aug 15 2010, 09:41 PM) H...   Aug 16 2010, 01:31 PM
Scan_Man   QUOTE(Crushinator @ Aug 16 2010, 01:31 PM...   Aug 16 2010, 04:05 PM
Afroforce   I already showed Dave what I'm having built for me...   Aug 16 2010, 06:07 AM
Knightsword   No, I think they just don't want pc loving america...   Aug 16 2010, 02:29 PM
Scan_Man   BTW this is default settings: Screen mode and win...   Aug 16 2010, 04:26 PM
tanshin   oh my gyaaaaahd. I wonder if I can squeak by until...   Aug 18 2010, 03:07 AM
Alisha   i'm wondering if crafting classes can fight? other...   Aug 23 2010, 04:39 PM
tanshin   They can definitely fight, they just suck at it, h...   Aug 23 2010, 05:14 PM
Alisha   QUOTE(tanshin @ Aug 23 2010, 07:14 PM) Th...   Aug 23 2010, 05:32 PM
Scan_Man   QUOTE(Alisha @ Aug 23 2010, 05:32 PM) QUO...   Aug 23 2010, 07:45 PM
AC9breaker   http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/11964-surpl...-komo...   Aug 25 2010, 02:39 PM
Crushinator   Yeah, i just read over that and it seems like a lo...   Aug 25 2010, 02:54 PM
AC9breaker   RE: FFXIVstuff   Aug 25 2010, 03:09 PM
Scan_Man   Well the main thing people on the beta forums are ...   Aug 25 2010, 07:31 PM
AC9breaker   To summarize what Scan said for all you lazy rubes...   Aug 26 2010, 05:40 AM
Scan_Man   Folks on the beta forums figured out how Surplus w...   Aug 26 2010, 08:11 AM
Crushinator   Pre-release trailer. OH GOD THIS SONG! EDIT: ...   Aug 27 2010, 08:38 AM
tanshin   Dammit, you mean I can't waste all my time grindin...   Aug 27 2010, 11:48 AM
Crushinator   I liked grinding in FFXI. When I finally got l...   Aug 27 2010, 11:58 AM
tanshin   It's true, MMO's are a stairway to nowhere. Even i...   Aug 27 2010, 12:12 PM
Maxx   The silly thing about this whole surplus thing is ...   Aug 27 2010, 12:42 PM
Maxx   QUOTE(Maxx @ Aug 27 2010, 12:42 PM) The s...   Aug 27 2010, 01:21 PM
Scan_Man   All really good points. When it comes MMOs I try...   Aug 27 2010, 03:42 PM
tanshin   Scan- Yeah, I actually agree with you there Scan. ...   Aug 27 2010, 04:25 PM
Crushinator   Officially NOT playing, unless someone gives me a ...   Aug 27 2010, 07:47 PM
AC9breaker   I'll only play is crush is playing. so officially...   Aug 27 2010, 11:57 PM
Crushinator   I just found a computer that fell off the back of ...   Aug 28 2010, 12:49 AM
Wiryu   I will be playing.   Aug 28 2010, 10:55 AM
Vitamin D   Well, I'm not much a fan of this fatigue idea myse...   Aug 28 2010, 10:56 AM
Kazicht   I'm still in, and I'm calling it now - if you let ...   Aug 28 2010, 02:00 PM
Scan_Man   Open beta I will be playing. After launch I will j...   Aug 28 2010, 03:44 PM
Afroforce   I'm in, of course. And I'm kind of thankful I'm g...   Aug 29 2010, 08:31 AM
Knightsword   I'll be giving it a go, got my LE preordered as we...   Aug 29 2010, 10:45 AM
AC9breaker   Just got an email for the open beta. I'll hop on ...   Aug 31 2010, 09:00 AM
Crushinator   Oh no! Open beta delayed! http://www.giantbomb.co...   Aug 31 2010, 03:19 PM
Scan_Man   Yeah not surprised it was delayed. Been the story ...   Aug 31 2010, 06:16 PM
Knightsword   QUOTEFINAL FANTASY XIV Open Beta Test Will Start o...   Sep 1 2010, 12:28 PM
Afroforce   What are the current server names and are they the...   Sep 4 2010, 04:44 PM
Scan_Man   New server names. Cornelia Kashuan Gysahl Mysidia...   Sep 4 2010, 04:49 PM
Afroforce   Nice. Once we pick one, I can start telling my oth...   Sep 5 2010, 12:07 AM
Knightsword   It better damn well be Figaro, or else   Sep 5 2010, 10:09 AM
Afroforce   QUOTE(Knightsword @ Sep 5 2010, 09:09 AM)...   Sep 5 2010, 11:20 AM
Knightsword   If ya have not gotten the beta files downloaded ye...   Sep 5 2010, 09:14 PM
Scan_Man   Which starting city?   Sep 5 2010, 09:30 PM
Knightsword   Dunno, after getting everything downloaded and ins...   Sep 5 2010, 11:13 PM
HC82   What's peoples take on this game so far, consideri...   Sep 7 2010, 09:51 PM
Maxx   QUOTE(HC82 @ Sep 7 2010, 09:51 PM) What's...   Sep 8 2010, 11:58 AM
Crushinator   QUOTE(Maxx @ Sep 8 2010, 11:58 AM) It is ...   Sep 8 2010, 12:38 PM
AC9breaker   Okay so here's the plan. I decided I'm gonna get ...   Sep 8 2010, 01:38 PM
Maxx   QUOTE(AC9breaker @ Sep 8 2010, 01:38 PM) ...   Sep 8 2010, 01:53 PM
Scan_Man   It would be nice if the downloader worked.   Sep 8 2010, 02:57 PM
Knightsword   QUOTE(Scan_Man @ Sep 8 2010, 03:57 PM) It...   Sep 8 2010, 04:36 PM
Scan_Man   I have it downloaded. But, I speak of that as a cr...   Sep 8 2010, 05:00 PM
Knightsword   Yea I went to Limsa Lominsa, that place is worse t...   Sep 8 2010, 05:12 PM
Dive   TEST   Sep 8 2010, 09:24 PM
Wiryu   Success.   Sep 8 2010, 09:26 PM
Knightsword   Oh ya one issue I hope SE fixes the crashing on al...   Sep 8 2010, 09:33 PM
Scan_Man   Ul'Dah is not so bad. The starting experience is ...   Sep 9 2010, 05:43 PM
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