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Healz = Ban, lmfao
tanshin
post Sep 28 2010, 07:10 PM
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If Square Enix had hired me for QA way back when, this would never have happened.


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Oddies da Nerfed
post Sep 30 2010, 06:18 AM
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Collateral damage? You don't just by accident walk out of your starting city and then by accident jump into a party of 16 conjurers who all by accident happen to be chain casting buffs and AOE heals for an obviously skewed amount of experience. It requires a conscious intent to exploit the system. And as for square enix not being reasonable, they are offering people who abused this exploit a chance to revert back to where they were and avoid a banning. (Blizzard in this situation goes directly to mass banning, for instance. Who's being unreasonable again?)

edit: I'm not trying to be antagonistic but this whole situation seems analogous to someone trying to get out of a prostitution sting by saying that it isn't their fault that women are selling sex for money and it shouldn't be their responsibility to resist the temptation.



And what's keeping em from banning anyone that cast a group heal at any point? SE is notorious for not putting a hell of a lot of thought in to things. Crashing in full screen due to alt tab? No search for market? How about the fact this "exploit" was known in beta and nothing done? Thats just the straight up poor design thought and pention to ignore the customers Lets not forget SE showed numerous times in ffxi that they have no issue mass banning people en mass, innocent be damned. They most likely would if the game was designed well enough that it had anything above a horrible review sofar. As such they cannot afford to swing the ban hammer at will. Though I guarantee you people who were using the skill as normal will get banned. It is the SE way.

Your attempt at rl example is also poor. You forgot to include the part where the sex is required for your own advancement and not purely for shits and grins. Seeing as how we are intended to use our skills to advance in ffxiv. Creative use of mechanics or not, the system is designed for you to progress due to skill use. I missed the part in the manual that said I am only allowed to use the skills a certain way.
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post Sep 30 2010, 01:24 PM
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When I get on tomorrow i'm going to be a galka healer and spam as much as I can.


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post Sep 30 2010, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE(Oddies da Nerfed @ Sep 30 2010, 05:18 AM) *
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Collateral damage? You don't just by accident walk out of your starting city and then by accident jump into a party of 16 conjurers who all by accident happen to be chain casting buffs and AOE heals for an obviously skewed amount of experience. It requires a conscious intent to exploit the system. And as for square enix not being reasonable, they are offering people who abused this exploit a chance to revert back to where they were and avoid a banning. (Blizzard in this situation goes directly to mass banning, for instance. Who's being unreasonable again?)

edit: I'm not trying to be antagonistic but this whole situation seems analogous to someone trying to get out of a prostitution sting by saying that it isn't their fault that women are selling sex for money and it shouldn't be their responsibility to resist the temptation.



And what's keeping em from banning anyone that cast a group heal at any point? SE is notorious for not putting a hell of a lot of thought in to things. Crashing in full screen due to alt tab? No search for market? How about the fact this "exploit" was known in beta and nothing done? Thats just the straight up poor design thought and pention to ignore the customers Lets not forget SE showed numerous times in ffxi that they have no issue mass banning people en mass, innocent be damned. They most likely would if the game was designed well enough that it had anything above a horrible review sofar. As such they cannot afford to swing the ban hammer at will. Though I guarantee you people who were using the skill as normal will get banned. It is the SE way.

Your attempt at rl example is also poor. You forgot to include the part where the sex is required for your own advancement and not purely for shits and grins. Seeing as how we are intended to use our skills to advance in ffxiv. Creative use of mechanics or not, the system is designed for you to progress due to skill use. I missed the part in the manual that said I am only allowed to use the skills a certain way.



Anything else from those who supposedly got nerfed/screwed/made a joke of in FFXI, and feel the need to have some kind of revenge by taking pot shots at every issue in FFXIV? Get it all out of your systems, guys. This is the thread for it. You'll feel better in no time.

Now go buy the game!


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post Sep 30 2010, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE(tanshin @ Sep 30 2010, 08:12 PM) *

Anything else from those who supposedly got nerfed/screwed/made a joke of in FFXI, and feel the need to have some kind of revenge by taking pot shots at every issue in FFXIV? Get it all out of your systems, guys. This is the thread for it. You'll feel better in no time.

Now go buy the game!



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[7:02:51 PM] Dung "Donkey" Nguyen: lol
[7:02:52 PM] Joey "Snoop Chocaboo" Bender: and I said "DON'T DO IT"
[7:02:54 PM] Dung "Donkey" Nguyen: HELLOOO?


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tanshin
post Sep 30 2010, 06:18 PM
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Okay, I'll clarify; DON'T buy collector edition. It was only worth it to play a week ahead of everyone else. But DO buy the regular edition.


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post Sep 30 2010, 07:17 PM
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But you get a blank notepad!


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post Oct 1 2010, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE(Crushinator @ Sep 30 2010, 06:17 PM) *
But you get a blank notepad!


I'm wearing that notepad OUT.

I use it in my music theory and jazz theory courses.

Also, I'm going pugilist, no ban4melol.


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post Oct 1 2010, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE(Oddies da Nerfed @ Sep 30 2010, 06:18 AM) *
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Collateral damage? You don't just by accident walk out of your starting city and then by accident jump into a party of 16 conjurers who all by accident happen to be chain casting buffs and AOE heals for an obviously skewed amount of experience. It requires a conscious intent to exploit the system. And as for square enix not being reasonable, they are offering people who abused this exploit a chance to revert back to where they were and avoid a banning. (Blizzard in this situation goes directly to mass banning, for instance. Who's being unreasonable again?)

edit: I'm not trying to be antagonistic but this whole situation seems analogous to someone trying to get out of a prostitution sting by saying that it isn't their fault that women are selling sex for money and it shouldn't be their responsibility to resist the temptation.



And what's keeping em from banning anyone that cast a group heal at any point? SE is notorious for not putting a hell of a lot of thought in to things. Crashing in full screen due to alt tab? No search for market? How about the fact this "exploit" was known in beta and nothing done? Thats just the straight up poor design thought and pention to ignore the customers Lets not forget SE showed numerous times in ffxi that they have no issue mass banning people en mass, innocent be damned. They most likely would if the game was designed well enough that it had anything above a horrible review sofar. As such they cannot afford to swing the ban hammer at will. Though I guarantee you people who were using the skill as normal will get banned. It is the SE way.

Your attempt at rl example is also poor. You forgot to include the part where the sex is required for your own advancement and not purely for shits and grins. Seeing as how we are intended to use our skills to advance in ffxiv. Creative use of mechanics or not, the system is designed for you to progress due to skill use. I missed the part in the manual that said I am only allowed to use the skills a certain way.


lol okay buddy. It sounds like you have issues with Square Enix that go beyond this specific non-incident. Whenever I party with the linkshell I do nothing but heal and buff. Never gotten a single point of experience from it either and I'm still, I think, the highest level fighting guy (my sig hasn't updated yet but I'm 17 conjurer now) in the linkshell. The day I get banned for that I will personally find you and admit that I was wrong and that square enix is the devil. Until then I'm going to continue having a lot of fun playing the game.


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