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HC82
post Apr 30 2011, 06:37 PM
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I didn't notice anything in the forums about this recently, but bioware's new Star Wars MMO is slated to be released sometime this year in 2011.

Main site:
http://www.swtor.com/

Cinematic trailer:
http://www.swtor.com/media/trailers/hope-c...railer#comments

Hungry Star Wars nerds:
http://www.swtor.com/media/trailers/pax-ea...highlight-video
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Scan_Man
post Jan 13 2012, 09:00 AM
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I think the difficulty is fine; for me at least. Though I think it is going to be annoying for casual non-gaming player; people that don't play anything but WoW or Star Wars fans. Though from what I understand the difficulty curve seems to be different for specific classes. For me it seemed to get increasingly harder at around 30+. So that is a balancing issue that maybe needs to be looked at.

The thing a lot of people may not be used to is that SWTOR requires you to use all of your abilities for midway and onward level-up content. Not to mention make sure your companion has the right abilities toggled on/off. It's a bit shocking to the players who have been only playing WoW-style MMOs where you just burn through everything and move on without much thought. I like in SWTOR that you have to learn your class. It's going to make endgame a lot more pleasant, at the cost of scaring away folks who have less patience and time to dedicate to the game. Mouse clickers must be having a really hard time.

I agree on the mob placement, it does get tiring. It seems like they are padding the length of the game in a lot of places. Same goes with the walking speed, the speeder speed, and the general amount of traveling you have to do. It sucks when something that should take 5 minutes takes 25 minutes because you have walk and keep clearing packs of mobs in your way. Then the turn in, and scream "please be the last quest here" then they give a follow up that is just as out the way. I mean there is a reason Blizzard has optimized WoW's flow over the years, so there is little traveling back and forth. There is a reason Skyrim and most modern RPGs have quick travel. There is a reason Guild Wars 2 will have quick travel. The reason is walking is not fun and is not the heart of what make an RPG engaging.

But again totally agree, when there are bonus objective they are fine, but when I have to clear them again and again just because they respawned quickly, or are in the way of the area I need to get to; it's not fun. Balsavis is probably the worst with this, with having tunnels and paths filled with mobs that you have to go back and forth between objective and turn-ins. Indeed make them fun or remove them. Let's not forget the mob packs that appear at first as single enemy, but 6 of his buddies rocket-pack in or come out of the ground like zombies. That gets old after a while.

I think lower the cooldown on the hearth to 10-15 minutes would be a nice fix to the above.

Mob placement overall reminds of City of Heroes, which was always odd to me and did not feel natural for the setting. Like stuff should be coming at me and not standing around (the flashpoints and story quest get this action right for the setting). WoW seems more natural with the packs of enemies, something about the art style makes it seem more alive. While Star Wars NPC mobs don't come alive until you engage them. Well, interior dungeon-like areas are fine in SWTOR, as are the exotic wild life. But in city areas, like Coruscant, stuff is just standing around lifeless.

I think the quest rewards then having mobs dropping mostly trash items and small xp is fine for the most part. The point is to discourage mob grinding and item farming (you know gold sellers). On another note the amount of enemies and their trash drops make the game seem more hack and slashy. It feels no different than Diablo where you sell most everything, but every now and then you find something good. At least I get into that mind set, and it does not bother me as much anymore. The way quest rewards are tailored to your class, and you get to pick between an upgrade now or a better badge item later is a nice touch. Choice is good.


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HC82   Star Wars: The Old Republic   Apr 30 2011, 06:37 PM
Crushinator   I'm not a huge SW fan, but I like bioware style RP...   May 1 2011, 02:11 PM
HC82   Gameplay vid from E3   Jun 11 2011, 10:45 AM
Scan_Man   I like how they are handling dialogue choices if y...   Jun 11 2011, 04:58 PM
tanshin   QUOTE(Scan_Man @ Jun 11 2011, 02:58 PM) I...   Jun 14 2011, 08:22 AM
HC82   It's a full timeline of the Star Wars Lore, via st...   Jun 14 2011, 10:09 PM
HC82   Pre-order for SWTOR is now avaliable. You can opt...   Jul 22 2011, 03:51 PM
Crushinator   150 bucks? Eat a dick, Lucas.   Jul 23 2011, 09:26 AM
Knightsword   You mean EA, Lucas didn't have anything to do with...   Jul 23 2011, 09:22 PM
Crushinator   I think the Halo legendary editions are just as st...   Jul 24 2011, 01:41 AM
Scan_Man   Not to mention 60 bucks for an unproven MMO game. ...   Jul 24 2011, 05:55 PM
HC82   Here is the Gentle Giant Darth Malgus statue. Real...   Jul 24 2011, 11:27 PM
Knightsword   I think its limited due to not wanting their serve...   Jul 25 2011, 05:02 PM
Scan_Man   Comic Con panel. Seems they are banking on the gam...   Jul 26 2011, 10:55 PM
Scan_Man   This game is fucking amazing! Looks like I will be...   Nov 25 2011, 05:44 PM
HC82   Weekend beta is officially over! I danced my way t...   Dec 5 2011, 12:03 AM
Wiryu   Ki'ta Kren is an east coast PvP server. It's the o...   Dec 5 2011, 11:03 AM
Crushinator   Is the empire the good guys or the bad guys?   Dec 5 2011, 05:19 PM
Knightsword   Empire is the Sith, the badguys. I'll be on the Re...   Dec 5 2011, 06:51 PM
HC82   We should probably pick some official AT server be...   Dec 5 2011, 10:51 PM
Scan_Man   I'm trying to find a server too as long it's East ...   Dec 6 2011, 11:43 AM
Wiryu   I'm pretty much promised to Ki'ta Kren since I gui...   Dec 12 2011, 09:44 AM
Crushinator   I'll just play wherever the hell Wiryu is. I'm s...   Dec 12 2011, 02:45 PM
Oddies da Nerfed   I'll most likely end up on a west server sith side...   Dec 13 2011, 08:47 AM
HC82   I am getting an early invite, So i'll let u guys k...   Dec 13 2011, 10:59 AM
HC82   Screenshots show the exisiting servers that are up...   Dec 13 2011, 12:49 PM
Knightsword   They changed Bondar Crystal to pvp from the beta, ...   Dec 13 2011, 05:00 PM
Wiryu   Most of the dudes I know headed to "Saber of Exar ...   Dec 13 2011, 08:40 PM
Dive   I'll see where the majority of you all end up. I ...   Dec 13 2011, 11:33 PM
HC82   If you pre-ordered late, you're guaranteed to get ...   Dec 14 2011, 12:22 PM
Scan_Man   I got my Early Access today! I guess I'll go Saber...   Dec 14 2011, 02:16 PM
HC82   I actually rolled Republic. I think a few of us ar...   Dec 14 2011, 05:16 PM
Kazicht   QUOTE(HC82 @ Dec 14 2011, 05:16 PM) I act...   Dec 14 2011, 05:37 PM
Oddies da Nerfed   I have a 21 Sith Sorc on Space Slug. Had to pick ...   Dec 17 2011, 10:45 PM
Knightsword   Ok rolled republic on Saber of Exar Kun   Dec 14 2011, 05:37 PM
Kari   I'm on Saber of Exar Kun with Wiryu.   Dec 18 2011, 06:34 PM
tanshin   RE: Star Wars: The Old Republic   Dec 18 2011, 10:56 PM
Kazicht   I really have to say this game does start off kind...   Dec 19 2011, 04:58 PM
Scan_Man   For me the game is still mostly holding up to my f...   Dec 19 2011, 07:47 PM
Oddies da Nerfed   If anyone ends up sith side on space slug (pve wes...   Dec 20 2011, 06:50 AM
Kazicht   So now that the game is officially launched, who e...   Dec 20 2011, 10:42 AM
Dive   I'm in. Still trying out classes but I have rolle...   Dec 20 2011, 01:55 PM
Wiryu   Bounty Hunter on Exar Kun named Wiryu. Lovin it. ;...   Dec 20 2011, 03:21 PM
Crushinator   I still don't have it, I want to play but I don't ...   Dec 20 2011, 03:51 PM
Scan_Man   Scankid - Jedi Shadow on Exar Kun Using this char...   Dec 20 2011, 03:54 PM
Oddies da Nerfed   Just started Sith assassin, Mistmoore, on Exar Kun...   Dec 21 2011, 10:14 AM
Knightsword   Let alone the endgame shit in FFXI, I would love t...   Dec 21 2011, 09:31 PM
Scan_Man   QUOTE(Knightsword @ Dec 21 2011, 10:31 PM...   Dec 22 2011, 03:53 AM
HC82   Characters: Dyne :Jedi Guardian Adol: Jedi Sage ...   Dec 22 2011, 11:44 AM
Knightsword   QUOTE(HC82 @ Dec 22 2011, 11:44 AM) Chara...   Dec 23 2011, 12:23 PM
Scan_Man   Well yeah the color blind issue, like in WoW, Bliz...   Dec 22 2011, 03:08 PM
Scan_Man   So how do people feel about the combat responsiven...   Dec 27 2011, 05:04 PM
HC82   When you queue an ability or attack that is not ch...   Dec 27 2011, 10:14 PM
Scan_Man   I've spent some time testing this on my Jedi Sage....   Dec 28 2011, 02:43 AM
Kari   I feel like assigning some kind of priority or dup...   Dec 30 2011, 08:51 PM
Wiryu   Started a consular on the republic side of exar ku...   Jan 11 2012, 07:02 AM
Kari   QUOTE(Wiryu @ Jan 11 2012, 08:02 AM) Star...   Jan 14 2012, 06:07 PM
tanshin   I'd like to start this post with a shout out to Vi...   Jan 12 2012, 06:25 PM
Knightsword   As for enemy difficulty, you are aware of the Norm...   Jan 12 2012, 07:38 PM
tanshin   QUOTE(Knightsword @ Jan 12 2012, 05:38 PM...   Jan 12 2012, 08:56 PM
Scan_Man   I think the difficulty is fine; for me at least. T...   Jan 13 2012, 09:00 AM
Kazicht   So far Linka, HC82 and I are on the republic side ...   Jan 14 2012, 10:25 PM
Wiryu   Sweet deal. I'll do some adding tomorrow.   Jan 15 2012, 10:48 PM
HC82   Establishing a guild requires a party of 4 people ...   Jan 16 2012, 09:58 AM
Wiryu   I can log in at anytime, but if we want to go for ...   Jan 16 2012, 11:12 AM
Kari   QUOTE(Wiryu @ Jan 16 2012, 12:12 PM) I ca...   Jan 16 2012, 08:53 PM
Wiryu   I'll be on tomorrow around 6ish est. For now thoug...   Jan 16 2012, 10:29 PM
Scan_Man   Really nice screenshots!   Jan 17 2012, 07:43 AM
Crushinator   Can you get a Jawa as your helper?   Jan 17 2012, 12:02 PM
Wiryu   Bounty hunters can!   Jan 17 2012, 03:22 PM
Kazicht   QUOTE(Wiryu @ Jan 17 2012, 04:22 PM) Boun...   Jan 17 2012, 04:52 PM
tanshin   So there I was, pokin' dudes in the dick with my l...   Jan 17 2012, 05:20 PM
Kazicht   So the Apocalypse Tribe guild is officially up and...   Jan 18 2012, 10:18 AM
Wiryu   I can't say I'd be too surprised with all the bad ...   May 22 2012, 01:59 PM
Crushinator   Probably. Get back on Diablo 3.   May 22 2012, 05:13 PM
Knightsword   I'm still playing, but not much left to do on my s...   May 22 2012, 07:07 PM
EinsamWulf   I kinda lost interest in this game after awhile, I...   May 23 2012, 07:38 AM


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