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Nimrod
Green Day's new album is set to be released on September 21, and it looks like it's going to kick ass. In this record, they plan on breaking away from their usual 2-3 minute song style, and doing songs that are much longer. Heres a quote from an article:

"A band that's known for the perfect two-minute song is now writing nine-minute epics," Armstrong says. "It's scary to think about."

I'm really anticipating this Album. From what I've read, they went from the sound of Warning, to a more punk-ish sound, with major influences from bands like The Who.
Dorian
QUOTE (Nimrod @ Sep 3 2004, 02:54 AM)
Green Day's new album is set to be released on September 21, and it looks like it's going to kick ass. In this record, they plan on breaking away from their usual 2-3 minute song style, and doing songs that are much longer. Heres a quote from an article:

"A band that's known for the perfect two-minute song is now writing nine-minute epics," Armstrong says. "It's scary to think about."

I'm really anticipating this Album. From what I've read, they went from the sound of Warning, to a more punk-ish sound, with major influences from bands like The Who.

You think 9 min is long? Pop in "A Change Of Season" by Dream Theater 23 min 3 seconds of kick ass music with lyrics that will make ya say "Wow".

Or thorw in "Rime Of The Aincent Mariner" by Iron Maiden, 13 min of pure music pleasure.

I was never really much a green day fan. I've had my time of listening to it. But most music from the 90's pisses me off cause of what I call a "Lack of passoion for music"

I'll most likely check it out though, thanks for the tip ^^
Nimrod
QUOTE (Dorian @ Sep 3 2004, 04:06 AM)
QUOTE (Nimrod @ Sep 3 2004, 02:54 AM)
Green Day's new album is set to be released on September 21, and it looks like it's going to kick ass. In this record, they plan on breaking away from their usual 2-3 minute song style, and doing songs that are much longer. Heres a quote from an article:

"A band that's known for the perfect two-minute song is now writing nine-minute epics," Armstrong says. "It's scary to think about."

I'm really anticipating this Album. From what I've read, they went from the sound of Warning, to a more punk-ish sound, with major influences from bands like The Who.

You think 9 min is long? Pop in "A Change Of Season" by Dream Theater 23 min 3 seconds of kick ass music with lyrics that will make ya say "Wow".

Or thorw in "Rime Of The Aincent Mariner" by Iron Maiden, 13 min of pure music pleasure.

I was never really much a green day fan. I've had my time of listening to it. But most music from the 90's pisses me off cause of what I call a "Lack of passoion for music"

I'll most likely check it out though, thanks for the tip ^^

The difference is Dream Theater is in the genre of Power Metal which is known for its songs that exceed 5 minutes, usually ranging from 5-7.

As opposed to punk, which has song averages of 2-3 minutes. So a 9 minute song in Punk is pretty damned long, espcially for Green Day. No, it's not the longest (The longest i've found is "The Decline" by NOFX, which holds 18 minutes), but still not as short as a most other songs that fall under the punk genre. beigesmile.gif
Dorian
Haha. I could never really get "in to" punk, it sounds to repetitive. Their doesn't seem to be much going on except poorly written music, to poorly written lyrics.

That's just my opnion, but there are some punk band that own: Misfits (Danzig years and only the Danzig years!), Deadk Kennedys (Jello years and only the Jello years!) and The Subhumans, to name a few.
Dive
QUOTE (Dorian @ Sep 3 2004, 09:16 AM)
Haha. I could never really get "in to" punk, it sounds to repetitive. Their doesn't seem to be much going on except poorly written music, to poorly written lyrics.

The poorly written music and lyrics are actually part of the design. Punk was meant to be a direct attack at the commercialization that music took on in the 70's. Overly produced bands and lavish "concept" albums by mainstream arena bands prompted some musicians to revolt, and create a sort of anti-music. Simple 3 chord structures and primitive angry vocals were the complete opposite what was being spoonfed to the masses from coccaine addicted record companies. What is ironic now is the fact that "punk" has become quite commercial itself. Back then punks would make their own clothes and hairstyles, basically creating a fashion statement out of anarchy. Nowadays one can simply go to the corner Hot Topic and with a few swipes of the plastic, come out with a complete punk ensemble.

Some of the pioneers of the punk rock music era.

Patti Smith
The Ramones
Iggy and the Stooges
The New York Dolls

Just for reference, I am not much of a Green Day fan.
Nimrod
Hot Topic is the devil. Its' given birth to too many wannabe goths, and is the reason for an 600% increase in eye liner sales. I really believe that the "punk" lifestyle is all but dead. Not to some people, who have lived that way their entire lives, but for everyone else (even the hot topic punks, who listen to OMGZ GOOD CHARLOTTE!) it's dead. Oh well, with crappy bands like Good Charlotte, Blink 182, and New Found Glory claiming the "Punk" title, maybe it's a good thing.

Oh ewll, that doesn't mean I can't love my music. beigesmile.gif buttrock.gif I've listened to punk since I was like 6, and I probably always will.
Kari
I hate these sort of conversations. It's always so trendy to talk about how dead a certain genre of music is.

Hottopic is catering to a fad. A fad for kids to get the attention they so desperately crave. Either that, or set themselves appart from everyone else.

I personally enjoy some of the clothes there. I don't like the people attached to it, but I do like the interesting styles offered. Maybe it's because I worked there - but I don't believe that everything has to be 'hardcore' genuine. Sure, punk started like a teenage rebellion, now it's a corporate fad. Enjoy the irony, fellas, it's like bell-bottoms and tye dye, but not nearly as badass.
Nimrod
QUOTE (Ferra @ Sep 3 2004, 02:39 PM)
I hate these sort of conversations. It's always so trendy to talk about how dead a certain genre of music is.

Hottopic is catering to a fad. A fad for kids to get the attention they so desperately crave. Either that, or set themselves appart from everyone else.

I personally enjoy some of the clothes there. I don't like the people attached to it, but I do like the interesting styles offered. Maybe it's because I worked there - but I don't believe that everything has to be 'hardcore' genuine. Sure, punk started like a teenage rebellion, now it's a corporate fad. Enjoy the irony, fellas, it's like bell-bottoms and tye dye, but not nearly as badass.

It's not completely dead, but the punk that started in the 70's, and continued through the 80's is. Now it's all abou being whiney and emo. "Omgz my girlfriend left me, so ltes write a song about it! Now...what was her name again?" It's completely transformed from something that actually MEANT something, to something for angsty teens to cry to.

And no, you don't have to be "hardcore" to be punk, or anything else for that matter. But just about every hot topic punk/goth seem to think they ARE hardcore, just because they spent their mommy's money on some eye liner and black clothes.


Punk isn't really dead, it's just in hiding. ;)
Kari
I'd beat you up if you weren't my friend.
Nimrod
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Dorian
QUOTE (Dive @ Sep 3 2004, 10:16 AM)
QUOTE (Dorian @ Sep 3 2004, 09:16 AM)
Haha.  I could never really get "in to" punk, it sounds to repetitive.  Their doesn't seem to be much going on except poorly written music, to poorly written lyrics.

The poorly written music and lyrics are actually part of the design. Punk was meant to be a direct attack at the commercialization that music took on in the 70's. Overly produced bands and lavish "concept" albums by mainstream arena bands prompted some musicians to revolt, and create a sort of anti-music. Simple 3 chord structures and primitive angry vocals were the complete opposite what was being spoonfed to the masses from coccaine addicted record companies. What is ironic now is the fact that "punk" has become quite commercial itself. Back then punks would make their own clothes and hairstyles, basically creating a fashion statement out of anarchy. Nowadays one can simply go to the corner Hot Topic and with a few swipes of the plastic, come out with a complete punk ensemble.

Some of the pioneers of the punk rock music era.

Patti Smith
The Ramones
Iggy and the Stooges
The New York Dolls

Just for reference, I am not much of a Green Day fan.

Dude, you suck... lol. I knew all that, but today, it seems that "punk" isn't the same as what it used to be. The repetiteveness is not in the single song, it's that every song sounds the same.
Dorian
QUOTE (Ferra @ Sep 3 2004, 04:39 PM)
I hate these sort of conversations. It's always so trendy to talk about how dead a certain genre of music is.

Hottopic is catering to a fad. A fad for kids to get the attention they so desperately crave. Either that, or set themselves appart from everyone else.

I personally enjoy some of the clothes there. I don't like the people attached to it, but I do like the interesting styles offered. Maybe it's because I worked there - but I don't believe that everything has to be 'hardcore' genuine. Sure, punk started like a teenage rebellion, now it's a corporate fad. Enjoy the irony, fellas, it's like bell-bottoms and tye dye, but not nearly as badass.

Music is like a cartoon (Don't know if you ever saw that Tiny Toons episode but I'll explain it) A cartoon can not die as long as someone is laughing at their jokes. Music can't die as long as someone is listening.
Knightsword
Hell, if it wasn't for hottopic I wouldn't have been able to find TF shirts
Nimrod
After having listened to most of the new Green Day album, i'd definately say it's a good one. If you were a fan of old Green Day, you'll probably like this album. If you weren't, you still might like it.
AC9breaker
QUOTE (Nimrod @ Sep 3 2004, 02:39 PM)
New Found Glory claiming the "Punk" title, maybe it's a good thing.


wtf? those guys are punk? Here I thought they where soft rock. beigelaugh.gif
That guy sounds like he's been hit in the nuts one too many times. beigelaugh.gif
They freaking suck. beigelaugh.gif
The lead singer looks like a roach. beigelaugh.gif
I hate those guys cause they have more money then me. beigelaugh.gif
Nimrod
I know I said I was done posting here, but the new Green Day album is out. buttrock.gif
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