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DivA
~if you had to choose, which game(s) would be top candidate? games you wish were never made ~ games that are either horrendous, annoying to play or a verified waste of disc-space...a game that would upset you on sight - the kind of game(s) that should be forever banned -by law- from the gaming world.. sniperer.gif for the betterment of civilization, if you gots one in mind (or few.. ;p) - vent here.. Oo
AC9breaker
omfg there are so many candidates. But the one that really made me super duper ultra super saiyen4 mega insanely very ultimate mode pissed off was a shitty ass game for ps1 called "time commando." I t involved some cheesy looking guy in a disturbingly ugly bright yellow costume running around as if he had a stick up his anus. If you think Residents evil controls are screwy... Try mixing that and tao feng type control styles. Absolutly horrendous. Then there is the lame story line and its...just...just so... just so lame...
My views in of this game summed up in one word------------> crash.gif
HC82
Well, there are many games through out the years that suck massive @&#%. I'll start with the most recent games that I actually played. There are many terrible games out there, but i'll only list one of them that I played.

State of Emergency: DAMN YOU TO HELL Rockstar, You sully innovation with this piece of dog crap. The exception is arcade mode(fun for a few hours), everything else is utter dog poo. I like to especially mock this game because all the hype actually managed to make it sell well for the first few weeks. Even funnier is that some game magazines gave it half way decent reviews, even though they gave others games, that are alot better, worse reviews. When you rag on one game for being repeatitive, but give SOE good reviews, that isn't right. Sorry but originality and blood doesn't make for a good game, especially with straight up lame gameplay. I don't care how original a game is, you can have crowds of NPCs running around and a cool idea, but if the game sucks, IT SUCKS. Just because something tries to be unique, doesn't make it automatically fun. Last time I checked wearing a pair of panties on my head didn't make me original, just a dumbass. When the missons repeat themselves in the FIRST STAGE, you know you have a problem.

Only way I can see someone liking this game, is if they enjoy just killing stuff. In which case, more power to you...although, might I suggest you spend those 20~40 dollars on a few crates of oranges, apples, and watermelons. Take a kitchen knife or a baseball bat and then proceed to smash the living shiznit out of them. I guarantee it will be alot more fun then playing SOE and you'll have something to eat afterward.
Henge
beigelaugh.gif @ HC

i hate that game too, it totally sucked... and after all that hype? did everyone think it would be gold just because it was made by rockstar? i bet so...

if you want to experience another POS made by rock star.. check out wild metal.. guaranteed to make you puke!

i hate Ghost recon also, at least on the ps2, wack controls, graphics, gameplay... i could go on and on but i wont... dont waste your time on this utter garbage.. not even worth a rent.

Xenosaga... people love this game.. but i cant seem to play past the third or fourth CGI.. SINCE IT LASTS 25 MINUTES!!! ... seriously though, the graphics are nice, but i literally fall asleep during those boring, lengthy CGI's.... more CGI than gameplay = bad.
unitself
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if you want to experience another POS made by rock star.. check out wild metal.. guaranteed to make you puke!

HA!!
I LOVED that game. I played through it numerrous time. I have heard that most people didn't like it because it was slow, but I disagree. Well, it was a bit slow, but I really liked it like that. Funny how someone can hate something that you like so much.
As a Sonic fan, I really really wanted to like the Sonic Party game that came out on the DC. I was horribly let down. Talk about a drag!
Bantam13
I cannot f*****g stand Pokemon or anything related to Pokemon.

Do I really need a reason??

First of all, the games play like inferior versions of the Dragon Quest series....except instead of killing the "innocent" creatures to level up and set out on further adventures, you're stuck capturing the damn things and having _them_ battle for you. Then you go around to different places and catch MORE of the things, usually finding a creature that is just slightly superior to the ones you previously used.

This ho-hum, uninspired gameplay goes on for hours, ad nauseam, with no real reason to why the player character wants to be "the best". I can see it now....

"What do you want to do when you grow up, son??"
"I wanna be the world's greatest Pokemon master. daddy!!"
"What the....?? You're dead to me. I HAVE NO SON!!"

If I wanted to watch two dirty woodland beasts go at it, I could just walk outside and snatch up two squirrels in a Hefty bag, shake it vigorously, and watch with childish glee....and I wouldn't have to waste money or my already dwindling eyesight on a pixelated mess going through 2 frames of animation for a piddly amount of damage.

I cannot f*****g stand Pokemon.

Next is the marketing juggernaut (read: corporate whoring) of the license/franchise....the merchandise on this cash cow was both omnipresent and obnoxious....you couldn't even take a dump in private without seeing Pokemon toilet paper or Pokemon fruity scented bath oils in someone's bathroom. Hell, I'm surprised some scientist out there didn't mass breed the little bastards so we could have Pokemon nuggets with an advertisement campaign that would put Baskin Robbins out of business....31 flavors?? Try 3 or 4 hundred, beppo.

I cannot f*****g stand Pokemon.

Last but not least....what it did to Nintendo as a whole.

Granted, they made some quick money....and to this day, they still ride that pony to the bank....but to me, this is where the Big N got their so-called "softcore" image, after riding out the backlash during the old Mortal Monday fiascos. Sweat, blood, whatever....water under the bridge....but when this type of game becomes more synonymous with Nintendo than Super Mario, then heads should certainly roll. All 400+ or God knows how many there are now.

I cannot f*****g stand Pokemon.

One of my greatest gaming joys these days is firing up Super Smash Bros. Melee and beating the living hell out of those yellow bastards they dared put in the roster, instead of Pitt and Wario.

To wit....see the first statement.


Bantam13
-- I wish Pikachu were real....I would beat his dirty rodent backside with a hammer until he bleeds out, and gladly serve the time for it. "Pound me in the ass" prison isn't so bad these days, or so I hear.
HC82
I too dislike pokemon. BLARG, it is highly devious and when you think about it, pretty f'ed up. First off I will ignore the gameplay, This point foward only reflects about 15% of why I dislike of pokemon. First off, the whole concept of "red" and "blue" versions is more of a scam to rip you off. BAH, sharing my ass, it's all about getting kids to buy GB linkup cables and having lonely kids buy both versions. Capitalism at it's best, 100% insideous and the public eats it up.

Oh, how can I forget the cute little woodland creautes...Oh my, isn't he cute...NOW I WILL ENSLAVE YOU AND MAKE YOU MY GLADIATOR OF DEATH...err I mean my pet...
Come on now, last time I checked having animals that fight each other would label you a sick, twisted, heartless bastard, but it's ok for our little kids to do it so long as we preach some bullshit about "loving your pokemon," "Friendship and teamwork." Bah, load of dog poo. Replace "loving your pokemon" with "protecting my merchandise" and "friendship and teamwork" with "you better win me that badge you little peice of shit, I don't keep you kooked up in this tiny, cagecell-of-a-ball for nothing. Fame, Glory, I will be the VERY BEST and it will paid with your pain and blood...GOOOO GROWLITH, shoot blazing hot flames."

Your running around catching woodland creatures and having them fight each other for the sake of your own fame and glory. Sounds like some grade "A" sicko shiznit to me. It's just a game, so lighten up? Hey, last time I checked little kids are most easily influenced when compared to adults. When it comes to little kids you can't turn a blind eye. If anything our youth is just getting more and more fucked up by the second. Nintendo can take Pokemon and shove it up Yoshi's piehole, atleast then it will come out as something edible.

Yea I played grand theft auto, but guess what? Grand theft auto isn't hiding what it is. You play a thug and jack up who ever you want. The game doesn't have cute little babies running around fighting in drug wars. Pokemon is just totally F'ed ep. Most folk say, your overreacting, so shut up. I say, No dude, open up your eyes. If the game was for adults I wouldn't really complain, but it ain't. It's for the rug rats of the world.

Note the above rant only accounts for 15% of why I don't like pokemon. The other 85% is the gameplay, yea thats right, paper sissors rocks with the depth of an 8 bit rpg don't do it for me. Everything about it is totally generic. I'm being FAR more critical on the newer Pokemons, whereas the orginal pokemon was geared for kids and I'm not expecting little kids to know of deep rp gameplay. Yet gearing the whole concept for kids ain't right either. The game is a paradox of its target audience in relation to the games concept.
Henge
QUOTE (unitself @ Oct 21 2003, 12:58 PM)
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if you want to experience another POS made by rock star.. check out wild metal.. guaranteed to make you puke!

HA!!
I LOVED that game. I played through it numerrous time. I have heard that most people didn't like it because it was slow, but I disagree. Well, it was a bit slow, but I really liked it like that. Funny how someone can hate something that you like so much.

heheheh, the main thing that pissed me off with it was the way you controlled the elevation on your barrel...

omg, how did i forget pokemon and its evil-bastard-children spin offs? i would explain why i hate it, but just go read Bantam and HC's posts. buttrock.gif
DarkEpyon
Hmmmmm.... I remember a game called Ninja Crusaders on the NES. The sound wasn't that great and the controls kinda sucked. The bosses were also damn near impossible. I got to about the second stage and decided I had enough. This was way back in 1992.

Another game that annoyed the crap out of me was Evil Zone on the playstation. The voices sucked, and I felt the controls were really annoying. The characters were pretty dumb too.

Miracle Girls on Super Famicom... Thank God this was never brought to the states. Its cutesyness (is that even a real word?) and horrendously pointless gameplay just made me sick.

Parasite Eve 2... Squaresoft's supposed answer to Resident Evil. Apparently they had to go and re-tool the controls to that of RE's. Didn't work out well. Needless to say I didn't even bother finishing that one.

Orphen, Scion of Sorcery on PS2. Annoying characters and shitty battle system.

Metroid Prime... yes I know I'm going to fry for this, but I absolutely hated that game. This just feels like Half-life or Doom with Samus in it to me. The fact you had to scan so many objects just to advance was annoying in itself. The graphics were great, but that's about all it had going for it.
Ether
PSO. Horribly horribly addicting game, turns everyone who touches it into red box hunting zombies, destroying social lives while people rack up 3000+ hour playtimes. It should be banned for the good of the universe

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Henge
i have mixed feelings about metroid prime, while i liked it, i dont think FPS's belong being played on the gamecubes controler. its just inpracticle... PS2 is the only controler i feel comfortable using in a FPS.. even then a mouse/kb or mouse/control combo is vastly superior.
Bantam13
QUOTE (Claymore @ Oct 22 2003, 12:51 AM)
i have mixed feelings about metroid prime, while i liked it, i dont think FPS's belong being played on the gamecubes controler. its just inpracticle... PS2 is the only controler i feel comfortable using in a FPS.. even then a mouse/kb or mouse/control combo is vastly superior.

Personally, I don't care much for the genre, but I had to give Metroid Prime a chance....especially since it was the first game for the franchise in practically forever.

I thought I was going to utterly despise it to the core of my being, but....I loved it. As for the controls, the only thing that really bugged me aside from the slow speed involved with changing visors was the sidedashing feature. 75% of the time I would go for it only to execute a short jump in the direction I wanted. Not exactly the best thing to happen when you're strafing some very nasty Chozo ghosts.

Otherwise, I thought the control scheme was rather intuitive once you got the hang of it. The C stick got in the way a few times, but nothing that I couldn't get around.

Oh yeah....Omega Pirate was an utter bastard. Plain and simple.

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Bantam13
--The sequel better be at least 4 times as big as the first....
Khaotika
I hated Metroid Prime as well...I never played it past the opening, because I never got used to the controls. ;p

OMG the Pokemon posts are TOO PERFECT.

I agree < Rhete. <- example of it destroying lives.

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-Khao
DivA
~the Sims - 'nuff said.. skullcross.gif

...

~seriously, there are perhaps 3 top games that i would love to obliterate from the face of the world (though, i had not considered pokemon*), in this order..

3 - tetris
2 - super monkey ball
1 - the Sims crash.gif


~tetris i hold no love for, perhaps i am not good at it; more likely that i just don't understand all this hype that is given to it.. -.- i like puzzles, but tetris *shivers* Super Puzzle Fighter & Magical Drop series were much better games, i thought.. =.

~super monkey ball - sorry, but i find this game offensive.. i cannot figure this out, but everytime i see the commercial ~ seeing monkeys enclosed in an air tight ball & being abused at all levels is not my idea of an enjoyable social game.. =/ weird thing is, i gots friends that enjoy it ~ but i find it actually disturbing..

~the Sims - grrr, i...hate...the...Sims on sight *doom* the kind of game that if i ever came across the designer(s) on the street, i would go yojimbo on them in a heartbeat.. skullcross.gif if i wanted to play a game about life, then i would turn off my computer & actually live it.. =ppp i'll see my friends in the abyss first before i try this waste of a game; this one remains a solid 1st on my list..

... *breathes deeply*

~lol, nice ~ i feel better already.. king.gif now, i must ponder where pokemon fits into the equation.. ^^
DarkEpyon
Tetris was essentially the puzzle form of crack.
Crushinator
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I hated Metroid Prime as well...I never played it past the opening, because I never got used to the controls. ;p


You kinda have to keep playing the game in order to figure out the controls...

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~super monkey ball - sorry, but i find this game offensive.. i cannot figure this out, but everytime i see the commercial ~ seeing monkeys enclosed in an air tight ball & being abused at all levels is not my idea of an enjoyable social game.. =/ weird thing is, i gots friends that enjoy it ~ but i find it actually disturbing..


You are probably the only person in the UNIVERSE who could possibly find some level of offense in SMB. Lighten up...its a hilarious game, challenging in the Solo mode, and tons of fun in the multiplayer party modes.

Now...onto the topic. HYDLIDE....FUCK I HATE THIS GAME! It has been the bane of my existance since the day I played it when I was a little kid. What the hell is with it...you hold down the A button and plow into the enemies to "fight" them, and then the only way to refill your life is to stand still and wait till it comes back...It takes about 100,000,000 enemies killed to gain ONE GODDAMN LEVEL, and get this...THERES NO FUCKING WAY TO CONTINUE WHEN YOU DIE because some stupid piece of shit kobold catches you while you are trying to regen your health.

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I am a glutton for bad game punishment...but GODDAMN why does Hydlide exist :( ....Let's not even mention the horrid Saturn FMV "Virtual Hydlide"...
Bantam13
QUOTE (Claymore @ Oct 21 2003, 12:26 AM)
beigelaugh.gif  @ HC

i hate that game too, it totally sucked... and after all that hype? did everyone think it would be gold just because it was made by rockstar? i bet so...

if you want to experience another POS made by rock star.. check out wild metal.. guaranteed to make you puke!

i hate Ghost recon also, at least on the ps2, wack controls, graphics, gameplay... i could go on and on but i wont... dont waste your time on this utter garbage.. not even worth a rent.

Xenosaga... people love this game.. but i cant seem to play past the third or fourth CGI.. SINCE IT LASTS 25 MINUTES!!! ... seriously though, the graphics are nice, but i literally fall asleep during those boring, lengthy CGI's.... more CGI than gameplay = bad.

....and if you want to further your catalog of shitty Rockstar games, one can only look towards the pile of crap known as Oni. I picked this up for like $14 new a few years back....little did I know I paid $14 too much. I swear that game has the most f'ed up control scheme I've ever experienced in a console game, ever.

Hrmm, I never found the time for Xenosaga....I was playing PSO at the time, as usual. Maybe I can squeeze it in before FFXI hits next week, lol.


Bantam13
--Now as for what to do with Oni....PULL!! **aims**
Knightsword
How about the utter bastard of the FF games Mystic Quest.
I mean this game is a horred combination of a standard FF game and Secret of Mana. The story was so dumbed down a smart person might miss it. This is the game we got instead of FF V.
Khaotika
QUOTE (Crushinator @ Oct 22 2003, 03:27 PM)
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I hated Metroid Prime as well...I never played it past the opening, because I never got used to the controls. ;p


You kinda have to keep playing the game in order to figure out the controls...

Well, usually if I can't get into the game within the first 10 minutes of playing, there's a huge chance I won't like it if I ever decide to tackle it again. I haven't since the first time. *shrug*

-Khao
DivA
QUOTE (Crushinator @ Oct 22 2003, 02:27 PM)
You are probably the only person in the UNIVERSE who could possibly find some level of offense in SMB.  Lighten up...its a hilarious game, challenging in the Solo mode, and tons of fun in the multiplayer party modes.

~& why am i not surprised to see you defending this ridiculous excuse of a game.. *shakes head* that's a pretty daring statement, assuming that you've met everyone in the UNIVERSE..
~sorry, judgement is passed - that game is refuse.. hangsmiley.gif
Crushinator
Maybe you should actually give it a shot, and not dismiss the game based on some silly theory about cartoon monkies getting hurt inside plastic balls.

The original arcade mode is a true test of skill, that harkens back to the days when videogames relied on nothing but your own reflexes and patience to master the game. Truely the real deal, and I feel sorry for you if you can't appreciate gameplay like that.

As for the multiplayer modes, there is nothing, NOTHING better than kicking back with your friends and playing a few (hundred) rounds of Monkey Target or Monkey Fight. Those two mini-games alone are worth the price of admission. Then there is monkey bowling, gold, and billiards, which are actually very fun, deep, and accurate representations of their respective sports (regardless of the hilarious monkey content). It seems like your friends are already clued into this, though. So I don't see how you could have avoided joining in the festivities because of some bizarre sense of pity for VIDEO GAME CARTOON MONKIES.
DivA
~is that so? tell you what, i'll try the game the day you level-up a HUnewearl; both you & i know that would never happen, so let's not kid ourselves, shall we? i'm not convinced, my judgement stands.. crash.gif

& btw, your formula for true test of skill needs reassessment; SMB is a shadow when measured against the old school of video games.. save you pity, i neither need nor desire it..
Mute
QUOTE (Crushinator @ Oct 23 2003, 05:12 PM)
Maybe you should actually give it a shot, and not dismiss the game based on some silly theory about cartoon monkies getting hurt inside plastic balls.

The original arcade mode is a true test of skill, that harkens back to the days when videogames relied on nothing but your own reflexes and patience to master the game.  Truely the real deal, and I feel sorry for you if you can't appreciate gameplay like that.

As for the multiplayer modes, there is nothing, NOTHING better than kicking back with your friends and playing a few (hundred) rounds of Monkey Target or Monkey Fight.  Those two mini-games alone are worth the price of admission.  Then there is monkey bowling, gold, and billiards, which are actually very fun, deep, and accurate representations of their respective sports (regardless of the hilarious monkey content).

Agreed. Super Monkey Ball is excellent for multiplayer fun. My buddies and I have played Monkey Fight more times than I can count. Monkey Target is highly addictive as well. I never got my hands on Super Monkey Ball 2 but I'd like to sometime down the road.

DivA ~ I SOOO agree with you about the Magical Drop series. Tetris is ok, I ain't gonna dis it, but when it comes to puzzle games, I much prefer Magical Drop 2/3 or Bust-A-Move (Puzzle Bobble).

Crush ~ Hydlide has to be one of the worst games ever! There was recently a best/worst RPG discussion at another forum that I post at, and Hydlide was instantly the first thing that popped in my head for worst.

As for the vent list, I'd like to add Enter the Matrix to the fray. Playing through this mess of a game was a really frustrating experience for me. Don't get me wrong, some of the stages were fun, but I found the controls to be quite a downfall, not to mention some collision detection issues. This game is only worth the time if you're a hardcore Matrix fan and want some of the side story. Otherwise, this game just leaves you thinking how good it could have been. >.<;;
Henge
i personally liked SMB, it reminded me of the ancient marble madness for the NES. its a light hearted game and there's alot more serious animal rights issues than fake monkeys inside fake balls on a video game.

why should the monkeys miss out in all the fun, how many games at last count, involved killing eachother?(read: human vs. human FPS, Action. ect.)
unitself
why o why are we even discussing SMB, when the atrocity of Sonic Shuffle exists! Come on! Sonic is a great character whos main attribute is that he runs very fast. But, for some reason, doing the Shuffle causes him, and all his woodland buddies, to crawl at a snails pace. UHG! No fun. Even for me.
So, forget the monkey. Shuffle is worse.

*drills air holes in the plexi-sphere*
There ya go lil' buddy. Now, go roam free!!
DivA
QUOTE (unitself @ Oct 24 2003, 02:01 PM)
why o why are we even discussing SMB, when the atrocity of Sonic Shuffle exists! Come on! Sonic is a great character whos main attribute is that he runs very fast. But, for some reason, doing the Shuffle causes him, and all his woodland buddies, to crawl at a snails pace. UHG! No fun. Even for me.
So, forget the monkey. Shuffle is worse.

*drills air holes in the plexi-sphere*
There ya go lil' buddy. Now, go roam free!!

~you know, scu - you may be right.. Oo Sonic Shuffle = 100% certified waste product; both that & Mario Party (all) would best be suited for target practice.. guns.gif
Khaotika
QUOTE (DivA @ Oct 24 2003, 03:21 PM)
Oo Sonic Shuffle = 100% certified waste product; both that & Mario Party (all) would best be suited for target practice.. guns.gif

I happen to like Mario Party 4. beigebigrazz.gif With the giant spider known as Waluigi, his royal fatass Wario, and the ability for Peach to say:

"Yeah! Peach is the Porno Star!!"

I mean...Party Star....I think...... :O

-Khao
Crushinator
QUOTE (DivA @ Oct 24 2003, 09:48 AM)
~is that so? tell you what, i'll try the game the day you level-up a HUnewearl; both you & i know that would never happen, so let's not kid ourselves, shall we? i'm not convinced, my judgement stands.. crash.gif


Hmm how about we pretend we actually know somebody before we make a statment about what they have and have not done, huh? I have used a HUnewearl character, two different ones in fact on DC, and I DID level them up a good ways too.

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& btw, your formula for true test of skill needs reassessment; SMB is a shadow when measured against the old school of video games.. save you pity, i neither need nor desire it..


If you would actually set your pride aside and give the damn game a shot, you would realize that its gameplay is the exact same type exhibited in the best of the "old school" video games. Except without the "fake difficulty" caused by cheap deaths or shitty controls.

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I happen to like Mario Party 4.  With the giant spider known as Waluigi, his royal fatass Wario, and the ability for Peach to say:


I am a pretty big fan of the Mario Party series, but I think part 4 is a serious piece of not good. They oversimplified the game boards WAY too much (highest difficulty is 2 stars??? what is the point of even ranking the difficulty?). And all the maps have horrible loops that are too easy to get stuck in for the entire game, ruining any fun you might have had elsewhere on the board.

The items were totally stupid, to replace the keys in previous "Party"s they used the mini mushrooms, but to get through a "door" (mini pipe) you need to be within 5 damn spaces of the pipe, AND get a lucky enough roll of the minishroom to get through. Then there's the mega mushrooms...yeah great I can go 20 spaces, but OH WAIT I miss every damn square INCLUDING THE STAR!!! Those are the main offenders...oh yeah and the mini-mega hammer, also stupid, why can't I CHOOSE what fate I want to deal out to my opponent? And also, what happend to the item mini games? Those were great, but now are replaced by that stupid "choose the big or small block" game where you can only get those GODDAMN MUSHROOMS. Lastly, although most of the mini-games are great almost all of the 3-on-1 games on MP4 are SERIOUSLY unbalanced toward one of the teams.

The sad thing is I still play Mario Party 4 with my freinds because of the eye-grating graphics of the N64 ones...oh what I wouldn't give if they would just make a "Mario Party" which included ALL of the previous "Party"'sgames, maps, and items. Online or not, that game would be the real deal.

Anyways, back to the topic another game that needs to GO is Final Fantasy 5...held in such a high regard because of the holy trinity of: 1) It's never came out in the US (till much later anyways); 2) It has the "Job system" (greatest RPG level up method if we are to believe the general internet gaming populace); and 3) Its a FINAL FANTASY

This game just sucks, boring characters, lame pacing, basically no graphical upgrade from FF4. It should have STAYED in Japan to rod, so I would never have had to pay money for it in that worthless Final Fantasy Anthology. Good thing I sold that bitch on Ebay 5 months later for $60.
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