FFXI Meeting 4/24/04 |
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 Apr 20 2004, 06:43 PM
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 The Dragon  Group: Associates Posts: 126 Joined: 31-October 03 From: The Dragon's Den... Member No.: 81  |
I know how AT came around, and I never "hinted" at anything. Trust me, when I want to "hint" at something, you will know, because I will come out and say it.
Well it may be time for me to leave. I fully understand who runs things here and I will never challenge them, but if this is in no way at all a democracy...I want no part of it. |
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Apr 20 2004, 06:44 PM
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 ☆タルタル、かわいい☆ Group: Neophyte Caste Posts: 541 Joined: 4-May 03 From: Kennewick, WA Member No.: 33 |
May I add in that it is JUST a game...and to have fun. This thread does not look like we are having fun be verbally (and using obsenities) to "bash" ideas and thought brought by other members... I believe the rule is simple...just use common sense and be kind to one another...then none of this has to be worried about! I hope we (AT) does not have to resort to written rules to govern our enjoyment of the game. *sigh* We never needed writted rules before...why do we need them now? I say this very strait forward (no offense): If we need written rules then maybe those that need the rules to follow should reconsider why they decided to join us. 
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Apr 20 2004, 06:47 PM
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 Sunbro Group: Paragon Caste Posts: 753 Joined: 16-April 03 From: 'Murica Member No.: 25 |
WHOA! Calm down guys. This thread was just a news thread. I think the context may have been take a bit far. Remember, we're all friends here. No need to go for eachother's throats now.
*does the shame shame finger gesture thing*  EDIT: Tis a shame Dive has to come home to this after a long days work. :( -------------------- PSN ID: USF_Tailgater
Xbox Live: USF Tailgater |
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Apr 20 2004, 06:48 PM
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 Show-off Group: Arbiter Caste Posts: 852 Joined: 23-December 02 From: Sin City Member No.: 10 |
*Passes around chill pills*
Chill peeps, this kind of stuff shouldn't be happening here. Simple as that. Even if I don't play this damn game. 
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Apr 20 2004, 06:50 PM
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 Hyper Frame Group: Paragon Caste Posts: 489 Joined: 12-October 03 From: Brooklyn, NY Member No.: 67 |
I think they mean immature name-calling. At least, I hope that's what they mean. If not, then I side with you, Chibi. However, I trust that they respect our opinions enough to hear them, but only mean to avoid immature attacks like, "yeah, well if you think so, you're an idiotic bitch!" -------------------- "So this Zealot comes to my door, all glazed eyes and clean reproductive organs, asking me if I ever think about God. So I tell him I killed God. I tracked God down like a rabid dog, hacked off his legs with a hedge trimmer, raped him with a corncob and boiled off his corpse in an acid bath. So he pulls an alternating-current taser on me and tells me that only the Official Serbian Church of Tesla can save my polyphase intrinsic electric field, known to non-engineers as 'the soul.' So I hit him. What would you do?" -- Warren Ellis, Transmetropolitan
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Apr 20 2004, 06:50 PM
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 Soul Frame Group: Associates Posts: 154 Joined: 19-December 03 Member No.: 108 |
People are misunderstanding the concept of "Arguments" and "Disagreements".
either way... people need to chill... ;) basically we wont know how this works till we try it out... i mean you never buy a car without a test drive right? |
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Apr 20 2004, 06:55 PM
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Hyper Frame Group: Paragon Caste Posts: 489 Joined: 12-October 03 From: Brooklyn, NY Member No.: 67 |
Why not? Dive and Woe didn't pick the name out without consulting the rest of us. In fact, we even voted on the names. I do think that we should have probably consulted the entire linkshell, but they by no means have all the power. Believe me, if we were all powerless puppets in their hands, I'd have been out of here a long time ago, being a person who loves speaking her mind above all else. This is hardly tyranny in disguise -- if that was the case, most of us would have been gone eons ago, I'm sure. -------------------- "So this Zealot comes to my door, all glazed eyes and clean reproductive organs, asking me if I ever think about God. So I tell him I killed God. I tracked God down like a rabid dog, hacked off his legs with a hedge trimmer, raped him with a corncob and boiled off his corpse in an acid bath. So he pulls an alternating-current taser on me and tells me that only the Official Serbian Church of Tesla can save my polyphase intrinsic electric field, known to non-engineers as 'the soul.' So I hit him. What would you do?" -- Warren Ellis, Transmetropolitan
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Apr 20 2004, 06:56 PM
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Hyper Frame Group: Associates Posts: 431 Joined: 13-December 02 Member No.: 7 |
There's a difference between a civil argument and flat out treating someone like shit.
I think it's the second one they're more concerned about. I haven't been on much lately, so I don't know how bad it is, but this topic is ridiculous. Chill out, dammit ._. |
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Apr 20 2004, 06:56 PM
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Hyper Frame Group: Paragon Caste Posts: 489 Joined: 12-October 03 From: Brooklyn, NY Member No.: 67 |
Why not? Dive and Woe didn't pick the name out without consulting the rest of us. In fact, we even voted on the names. I do think that we should have probably consulted the entire linkshell, but they by no means have all the power. Believe me, if we were all powerless puppets in their hands, I'd have been out of here a long time ago, being a person who loves speaking her mind above all else. This is hardly tyranny in disguise -- if that was the case, most of us would have been gone eons ago, I'm sure. EDIT: Gah. Didn't mean to post this twice >:/ -------------------- "So this Zealot comes to my door, all glazed eyes and clean reproductive organs, asking me if I ever think about God. So I tell him I killed God. I tracked God down like a rabid dog, hacked off his legs with a hedge trimmer, raped him with a corncob and boiled off his corpse in an acid bath. So he pulls an alternating-current taser on me and tells me that only the Official Serbian Church of Tesla can save my polyphase intrinsic electric field, known to non-engineers as 'the soul.' So I hit him. What would you do?" -- Warren Ellis, Transmetropolitan
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Apr 20 2004, 07:04 PM
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The Dragon Group: Associates Posts: 126 Joined: 31-October 03 From: The Dragon's Den... Member No.: 81 |
From what I understand, the LS and the AT "clan" are two seperate things. So if this move to a new LS is to embrace ALL of the sites/groups/etc we are all from, why did only a select few get to vote? It seems that the AT "clan" is taking over the LS and the rest of us mean dick. I'm not mad at anyone, but this really pisses me off. If I have no say in anything concerning the LS, why the fuck should I be in the LS? I love you all for the things you have all done to help me...but this is stupid. I was lied to and made to believe that in the LS we were all equal. This seems to not be the case... 
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Apr 20 2004, 07:40 PM
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Wanderer of the plains... Group: Associates Posts: 126 Joined: 13-October 03 Member No.: 70 |
This i was not aware of, hence the you don't see me participate much in helping expedition or maybe it is just my arkward time. I'll be more mindful of people needing help in the future, if i can and able i will try.... |
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Apr 20 2004, 07:47 PM
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 Antarctica Traffic Control Group: Dark Templar Posts: 1823 Joined: 10-December 02 Member No.: 1 |
ok I admit we made a huge mistake in not informing many people of this change over. We fucked up plain and simple. I had no idea the type of reaction this would garner. I hear people saying they are not going to join this new Linkshell and others just outright pissed at us for some reason.
In my opinion, it has always seemed that all of the planning and setup for any mass Linkshell event has started here at ATHQ and has been overseen by the AT higher ups. I was under the impression that people are fine with a select group of players doing all the hard work for them and taking care of "business". And believe me when I tell you this, Woe and I have tried so hard to make a pleasant online experience for EVERYBODY. In the begnining AT was a small core group of friends. This site has expanded on that and grown to accomodate our much larger "family" now. The caste structure apparent here is only to signify those who have been in AT for so long, and also to identify the forum staff and helpers. AT is not a dictatorship, It never has been. This discussion has gone on far too long without any voice of reason. I cannot be here 24/7 monitiring topics. It seems people have already made their judgements concerning this without hearing my feedback on their opinions. I have seen the ruckus this has caused and the people who are already heading for the exit. Let me say this one more time. Woe and I made a huge mistake. We never meant to alienate anyone, or make them feel that they do not have a voice concerning everyone's Linkshell. The new Linkshell plan is now on hold, at least in my view. Let us please continue this discussion without massive assmuptions and en masse dapartures. I feel that people have put their trust in us up to this point, do you think that we would lead you astray? Do you think that we do not value your opinions? I have more to say. |
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Apr 20 2004, 07:54 PM
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Soul Frame Group: Associates Posts: 154 Joined: 19-December 03 Member No.: 108 |
woot nice post... i still dont see what the huge problem was... i mean who came up with the original name and color?
who cares everyone have fun! its ffxi... this thread should have never made 4 pages...... guys.. its not a big deal.. lol i cant stress this enough... its a name change.. wow!.. and who cares if the higher ups made the decision.. 1. they are higher ups.. simply put... 2. they know what they are doing.. they arent stupid... 3. without them you wouldnt even have this damn site.... 4. chill out.. because just like with anything.. things can change.. and positive feedback can help... either way.. i say do what you want with the ls color and name.. as long as i get a pearl when i come back may 7th.. Done.... |
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Apr 20 2004, 07:57 PM
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 OpSec Group: Dark Templar Posts: 1324 Joined: 13-December 02 From: Roseburg, OR Member No.: 2 |
dirge, thank you for saying something.... i feel exactly as you do. i've been sitting here reading this thread all day and i am just at a loss for words all i can say, is i'm am sincearly sorry to anyone we have offended, our intentions were nothing but good, i assure you all.
as dirge said, AT IS NOT in any way a dictatiorship. everyone here is equal, as is everyone in AC and ALL of your oppinions matter greatly. Zorya and Elli: STOP IT, this is not the place for this. it shouldn't have been brought up here in the first place. it is entirely out of context. |
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Apr 20 2004, 08:02 PM
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Antarctica Traffic Control Group: Dark Templar Posts: 1823 Joined: 10-December 02 Member No.: 1 |
AIM chatroom in progress. Turn on your AIM client right now to join the discussion,
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