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Alisha
post Aug 4 2009, 03:05 PM
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http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/04/final-fa...new-job-system/

The latest edition of Famitsu Wave recently hit newsstands in Japan, bringing with it a DVD which contains an 8-minute exposť on Square Enix's second stab at the MMO genre, Final Fantasy XIV. The whole video is posted after the break. Fret not -- it sports convenient English subtitles.

Here's some of the more titillating excerpts: The game features a reinvented character progression system which does not include experience points or leveling up. The job system from XI will make an appearance, but in a heavily altered form -- an interview with the game's director, Nobuaki Komoto, revealed that the game will place a focus on the weapons players use, explaining that your armaments will determine "the way you play" and "the way you grow." Sounds reminiscent of Final Fantasy IX. (That's a very good thing.)

In addition, FFXIV producer Hiromichi Tanaka explained that the game takes place in a new region with a more "modern" feel to it -- the mysterious Eorzea which was mentioned in the trailer. The new world features familiar races (albeit with new names), and plays host to a "deep story," which is told through cut-scenes and quests. For more FFXIV info than you can possibly handle, check the video after the jump.


sounds similar to monster hunter no?

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Someone translated the text on BG Forums regarding the characters:

"When you make your character, aside from choosing the race, you will also be able to customize their appearance. Head, skin color, hair type etc, there will be multiple factors. Just how exact we will be able to customize their appearance is still unknown, but we mean it in a good way when we say that it seems like it will become a worry to many players."


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Scan_Man
post Apr 21 2010, 03:42 PM
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Apparently there are 2 more caster classes, among a few more physical classes, that were data mined from the game. There is so much variety in the physical classes, but not caster; it is odd. A lot of people wish to play a pure healer. I would like to see a pure healer class in this game. The advancement system can lead itself to pure builds, but being able to distinguish who is who makes grouping so much easier.

I hope there is a way to distinguish who is a pure healer. Same goes for pure tank. With the state of the MMO community these days, the thought of having to find a group makes me cringe. For example, I don't want to group with the Conjurer who has been advancing his damage spells but says "LOL I can heal I got curez!" But, the truth is he has not touched/advanced his healing spells at all, and we are doing high level group content. I can think of a million scenarios like this because it has happen to me in every MMO I've played recently. I need to know who is going to be an idiot, and who is going to be good at the role/class they were invited to play as.

The idiots suck the enjoyment out of the game and makes the community hostile; trusting other players. This is mostly because of the WoW player base, and the state of the WoW community. The majority of the WoW player base are very very very bad at playing these types of games, and they don't listen when you tell them they are doing it wrong. The thing is the people playing FFXIV, US side, are going to to be mostly WoW players. The success of FFXIV game is going to rely on how many WoW players that stick.

The cycle is always the same when a new MMO comes out. First you have the hype that it is a "WoW killer." All the baddie WoW players believe into this garbage, and buy the game. The game will generate record breaking sales or pre-order sales. Server instability the first week of release. Awesome reviews from gaming sites. After a month people realize the game is not WoW or the "WoW Killer" they bought in to, they abandon the game. For the people that actually enjoy the new MMO for what it is, they are left with a deserted game where it is difficult to find good groups, or difficulty in taking on certain content because the population is spread thin.

Looking at the classes being able to have multiple roles, as well as being able to solo and switch jobs on the fly, this tells me they want to be more friendly to WoW players. There are so many pitfalls with having so many classes being able to do multiple roles, though. Having so many classes able to tank, for example, is a balancing nightmare. Just ask Blizzard with introducing Death Knights in WoW. The problem is when people get a firm grasp of the mechanics, min/maxing will always determine which class is best suited for a particular role. What that does is leave the people who want to tank with another class out to dry. So you have to ask, why are the lesser classes able to tank anyway? That is why I ask where is the pure healer and pure tank?

FFXIV seems to have very well defined class roles, but they decided to haphazardly throw in some ambiguity for the sake of appealing to WoW players; or solo enthusiast. This ambiguity in the class roles is not a good thing when you are trying to put together a group that will have the highest chance of being successful. The result of this issue is different depending on how many people are playing the game. If the population is huge, then you are more at risk of running into idiot players like I mentioned above; not having the correct skill or knowledge for the role they were invited for. If the population is small, then desired roles/classes/playstyles will be harder to find, thus finding a good group takes longer.


I do like there is no PVP to speak of. Having PVP always ruins balance for PVE.

I really want this game to do well because I think the advancement system, ie no experience based leveling, is the direction MMO's need to go. Maybe, it will encourage MMO developers to stop making WoW clones that suck.

This post has been edited by Scan_Man: Apr 21 2010, 03:50 PM


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post Apr 24 2010, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(Scan_Man @ Apr 21 2010, 02:42 PM) *
The thing is the people playing FFXIV, US side, are going to to be mostly WoW players. The success of FFXIV game is going to rely on how many WoW players that stick.


I don't know about that. I think most of the players will be transplants from FFXI or simply final fantasy fans before they consider themselves "WoW players". Anyone that has invested even a little time into FFXI will be interested in this game before someone who is into WoW. Given that, I think the game will have an automatically adequate player base no matter who comes and goes back to WoW. (FFXI is still going even now)

Also, not everyone who plays MMOs likes WoW, or has even played it past the free trial. Me, for example. And I don't think I'm an exception, either. WoW buster or not, who cares.


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Alisha   FFXIVstuff   Aug 4 2009, 03:05 PM
Crushinator   The characters look nice, a big improvement over (...   Aug 4 2009, 05:41 PM
AC9breaker   Fuck yeah dood, Galka brotherhood 4 li4e. You guy...   Aug 4 2009, 06:50 PM
Crushinator   Direct translations from the Famitsu article court...   Aug 5 2009, 05:51 AM
tanshin   After reading all this new info, I can't help but ...   Aug 5 2009, 10:37 AM
Knightsword   Hopefully they also get rid of that annoying extra...   Aug 5 2009, 05:40 PM
Alisha   obviously we need to know more but i don't like th...   Aug 6 2009, 06:19 PM
Crushinator   QUOTE(Alisha @ Aug 6 2009, 05:19 PM) obvi...   Aug 6 2009, 10:13 PM
HC82   QUOTE(Crushinator @ Aug 6 2009, 10:13 PM)...   Aug 7 2009, 09:44 AM
AC9breaker   I don't know, it makes the game sound like PSU and...   Aug 6 2009, 09:07 PM
Alisha   QUOTE(AC9breaker @ Aug 6 2009, 11:07 PM) ...   Aug 10 2009, 03:10 PM
Crushinator   QUOTE(Alisha @ Aug 10 2009, 02:10 PM) i o...   Aug 10 2009, 09:41 PM
Crushinator   Some in-game screens posted at Kotaku: http://kot...   Aug 8 2009, 07:03 PM
Wiryu   It's because of monster hunter I feel really good ...   Aug 14 2009, 06:43 PM
Alisha   gameplay videos Video Games | Final Fanta...   Aug 19 2009, 04:36 PM
Crushinator   Blast! I was just here to post those! Yeah it loo...   Aug 19 2009, 04:58 PM
Vitamin D   It certainly seems that they're trying to rope bac...   Aug 19 2009, 05:08 PM
Crushinator   Video Games | Final Fantasy XIV Online | GC 09: La...   Aug 19 2009, 05:11 PM
Crushinator   RE: FFXIVstuff   Sep 24 2009, 02:30 AM
Alisha   mega boss. i'm geussing thats the games opening cu...   Sep 25 2009, 04:34 PM
Crushinator   From RPGsite: QUOTEPS3 fans who want to beta test...   Oct 2 2009, 03:17 PM
Scan_Man   About the DirectX9 thing. From what I heard the ma...   Oct 2 2009, 09:38 PM
Knightsword   And if I recall only ati has launch its dx11 cards...   Oct 2 2009, 09:54 PM
Crushinator   But on that same token, the developers for FF14 ha...   Oct 3 2009, 10:06 PM
AC9breaker   Not only that but, of course the people won't buy ...   Oct 4 2009, 12:01 AM
Alisha   QUOTE(AC9breaker @ Oct 4 2009, 02:01 AM) ...   Oct 7 2009, 03:49 PM
Crushinator   QUOTE(Alisha @ Oct 7 2009, 02:49 PM) but ...   Oct 7 2009, 04:04 PM
Wiryu   Least of my concerns. If it only supported Dx3 my ...   Oct 6 2009, 02:55 PM
Knightsword   I would rather have it be dx9 and usable by all th...   Oct 6 2009, 04:37 PM
Crushinator   Making a game DX10 compatible does not preclude it...   Oct 7 2009, 01:46 AM
HC82   All these stats hurt my brain (well not really), a...   Oct 7 2009, 06:42 AM
Crushinator   Yeah I'll admit I kinda lost my way toward the end...   Oct 7 2009, 03:42 PM
Crushinator   http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/ Updates on the off...   Oct 8 2009, 12:37 AM
Scan_Man   LOL at the Armoury section with the Leeroy example...   Oct 8 2009, 09:18 PM
Crushinator   PC version beta signups are a GO! http://entry.ff...   Dec 17 2009, 03:54 AM
AC9breaker   Applied! So yeah the last question was Do you run...   Dec 18 2009, 04:59 AM
Alisha   some screenshots someone posted on another board f...   Dec 18 2009, 02:04 PM
Crushinator   Looks hot. Now how about they actually reveal som...   Dec 18 2009, 05:31 PM
Alisha   some character creation info http://www.ffxivcore...   Dec 22 2009, 05:13 PM
Crushinator   Those crabs are fucking awesome. Good to see ther...   Dec 22 2009, 06:54 PM
Alisha   some old some new http://www.ffxivhq.com/reposit/...   Jan 10 2010, 01:43 PM
AC9breaker   YOU'VE ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD!   Jan 10 2010, 11:29 PM
donkeybeatz   RE: FFXIVstuff   Jan 11 2010, 11:59 AM
Vitamin D   LMAO X2.   Jan 11 2010, 05:51 PM
Alisha   a copy and paste job for you! QUOTESo drama has b...   Feb 23 2010, 07:06 PM
AC9breaker   How much money you figure he could get for that? ...   Feb 23 2010, 07:17 PM
Crushinator   Call me when we can actually get a beta in english...   Feb 23 2010, 07:29 PM
Alisha   QUOTE(Crushinator @ Feb 23 2010, 08:29 PM...   Feb 25 2010, 03:33 PM
Crushinator   http://www.destructoid.com/final-fantasy-x...11-16...   Mar 1 2010, 02:33 AM
AC9breaker   I'm pretty doubtful. It seems like they're gonna ...   Mar 1 2010, 07:10 AM
Crushinator   I knew i should have set my excitement for FF14 as...   Mar 1 2010, 02:30 PM
Alisha   this isnt ffXIV related but the level cap in ffxi ...   Mar 1 2010, 04:34 PM
AC9breaker   Apparently the invites have only been sent to peop...   Mar 1 2010, 06:43 PM
Alisha   QUOTE(AC9breaker @ Mar 1 2010, 07:43 PM) ...   Mar 1 2010, 07:01 PM
Crushinator   That level cap raise seems really stupid. Its lik...   Mar 2 2010, 01:15 AM
Wiryu   I'm just too curious to stay away!   Mar 6 2010, 12:00 PM
Crushinator   Apparently if you buy the PS3 version of FF13, you...   Mar 9 2010, 02:22 PM
Crushinator   http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/4268-famits...ki-le...   Mar 10 2010, 05:40 PM
Alisha   this url has a boat load of pics http://www.famits...   Mar 11 2010, 06:05 PM
AC9breaker   I'm rolling Galka Archer and Maybe Marauder.   Mar 11 2010, 10:09 PM
Crushinator   The officiall AT linkshell will be "Bro". You can...   Mar 12 2010, 01:49 PM
Alisha   the official jp site has been updated and you can ...   Mar 12 2010, 06:12 PM
AC9breaker   Just reached the first save point for in FFXIII an...   Mar 13 2010, 10:55 AM
Crushinator   The different "Tribes" from FF14. So I guess we ...   Mar 31 2010, 01:42 PM
AC9breaker   Looking fantastic. I just hope the framerate isn't...   Mar 31 2010, 05:14 PM
Crushinator   Alpha Test users' manual: QUOTEFINAL FANTASY XIV A...   Apr 2 2010, 04:39 PM
tanshin   Good info there, that answers a lot of the questio...   Apr 3 2010, 03:47 PM
Alisha   lol it seems a ton of people are getting banned fo...   Apr 9 2010, 05:39 PM
Crushinator   Ace reporter Alisha, on the scene!   Apr 9 2010, 06:00 PM
Alisha   QUOTE(Crushinator @ Apr 9 2010, 08:00 PM)...   Apr 9 2010, 06:38 PM
tanshin   QUOTE(Alisha @ Apr 9 2010, 05:38 PM) QUOT...   Apr 11 2010, 03:24 AM
Crushinator   From what I understand, the person posting the you...   Apr 11 2010, 05:44 PM
Bilix   First one to name a Hume Justin Beiber wins a priz...   Apr 15 2010, 01:53 PM
AC9breaker   Looks more like a taru to me.   Apr 15 2010, 02:56 PM
Scan_Man   I can't wait. I love the music previews on the mai...   Apr 18 2010, 09:55 PM
Alisha   QUOTE(Scan_Man @ Apr 18 2010, 11:55 PM) I...   Apr 19 2010, 05:13 PM
Scan_Man   Yeah I saw that. But the other one lacks a group h...   Apr 19 2010, 10:33 PM
Alisha   the only mmo ive played where you need group heals...   Apr 21 2010, 09:30 AM
Scan_Man   Apparently there are 2 more caster classes, among ...   Apr 21 2010, 03:42 PM
tanshin   QUOTE(Scan_Man @ Apr 21 2010, 02:42 PM) T...   Apr 24 2010, 11:13 AM
Scan_Man   There is over 2.5 million, there will be more when...   Apr 24 2010, 05:52 PM
Alisha   click here mang http://killingifrit.com/forums/to...   May 18 2010, 04:46 PM
Crushinator   So in other words final fantasy has caught up to w...   May 18 2010, 05:19 PM
Alisha   well i've only played 3 mmo's asherons call, ffxi ...   May 18 2010, 06:29 PM
tanshin   Well, long story short, I've been chosen to partic...   Jun 7 2010, 09:34 PM
Crushinator   Awesome, keep us updated on the front lines with w...   Jun 8 2010, 01:25 AM
Crushinator   It wouldn't be Final Fantasy online if you weren't...   Jun 16 2010, 04:48 PM
Alisha   QUOTE(Crushinator @ Jun 16 2010, 06:48 PM...   Jun 16 2010, 05:34 PM
Crushinator   I didn't post the 2nd report because its just a bu...   Jun 16 2010, 05:51 PM
Alisha   QUOTE(Crushinator @ Jun 16 2010, 07:51 PM...   Jun 16 2010, 06:34 PM
Scan_Man   I really like how the action bar changes based on ...   Jun 17 2010, 03:20 AM
Alisha   unfortunate? i actually preferred playing ffxi on ...   Jun 17 2010, 05:25 PM
Scan_Man   Compared to a controller, using good keybindings w...   Jun 17 2010, 11:32 PM
tanshin   QUOTE(Scan_Man @ Jun 17 2010, 10:32 PM) t...   Jun 18 2010, 07:33 AM
Crushinator   I guess this belongs here.   Jun 18 2010, 03:46 AM
Scan_Man   I explained why there is little difference between...   Jun 18 2010, 04:59 PM
Crushinator   http://www.joystiq.com/2010/06/30/final-fa...ch-20...   Jun 30 2010, 10:32 PM
Scan_Man   Those are very shitty release dates for both versi...   Jun 30 2010, 10:55 PM
AC9breaker   That's a good question Scan_man. guess I'm gonna...   Jul 1 2010, 12:04 AM
Scan_Man   Well I am in the beta. Guess I'll see for myself.   Jul 12 2010, 09:55 PM
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