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Alisha
post Aug 4 2009, 03:05 PM
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http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/04/final-fa...new-job-system/

The latest edition of Famitsu Wave recently hit newsstands in Japan, bringing with it a DVD which contains an 8-minute exposť on Square Enix's second stab at the MMO genre, Final Fantasy XIV. The whole video is posted after the break. Fret not -- it sports convenient English subtitles.

Here's some of the more titillating excerpts: The game features a reinvented character progression system which does not include experience points or leveling up. The job system from XI will make an appearance, but in a heavily altered form -- an interview with the game's director, Nobuaki Komoto, revealed that the game will place a focus on the weapons players use, explaining that your armaments will determine "the way you play" and "the way you grow." Sounds reminiscent of Final Fantasy IX. (That's a very good thing.)

In addition, FFXIV producer Hiromichi Tanaka explained that the game takes place in a new region with a more "modern" feel to it -- the mysterious Eorzea which was mentioned in the trailer. The new world features familiar races (albeit with new names), and plays host to a "deep story," which is told through cut-scenes and quests. For more FFXIV info than you can possibly handle, check the video after the jump.


sounds similar to monster hunter no?

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Someone translated the text on BG Forums regarding the characters:

"When you make your character, aside from choosing the race, you will also be able to customize their appearance. Head, skin color, hair type etc, there will be multiple factors. Just how exact we will be able to customize their appearance is still unknown, but we mean it in a good way when we say that it seems like it will become a worry to many players."


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Scan_Man
post Aug 12 2010, 05:35 PM
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WALL OF TEXT!

Response to Tanshin:

I am just giving my opinion. The content of opinions are up for discussion, but basically should be taken for a grain of salt. Nothing to "emo" over. If you have something to say about the game (as in gameplay or other musings), or disagree, say it. Talk about the actual game. I asked you questions, so I could possibly adjust my opinions based on someone who had first hand information. You declined to answer, which is your right.

However, I'm here to talk about this game, in its current form, based on information I am able to gather. What I think of it too. Retorting with that it is just a "Beta" talk, does not lead to any kind of discussion of this game. I understand that it is a Beta. Developers have an NDA because they don't want people talking about an unfinished product. However, there are people out there that are interested in knowing how the game is coming along, me included. They may not have beta access, or they may but not have the time to play. That is my audience, if it is not clear to you. Most of all, I love talking about game mechanics, and what that means for users, in detail. It is a passion of mine. I understand most people don't care, or it is beyond their scope of what they wish to discuss. But it is something, I like to talk about regardless if no one is listening. That is what passion is all about.

Sounds like you trying to start drama because saying things like "secretly rolling my eye" is dismissive passive aggressiveness directed towards me. So, if I got your engines revved up, I say good! I don't care if you have a problem with what I say, but I will not let that kind of hostility directed towards me slide.

You said you tried to hold off not saying anything because to not start drama. Why wait until now? If I were to take what you said literally, then your choice of words have failed that stated purposes. Again, why now? What makes now so safe for you to come out of your hole?

Saying stuff like "secretly rolling my eye" is a dick move. And you know it. Which why you put your "Did not want to start drama" disclaimer, to try and soften it. Stop. I am not fooled by such. You basically told me how your intentions are going to come off.

Not everyone emotionally attaches to things he or she says, or what other say, like you may do (I assume). For me, I expect disagreement, welcome it, and respect it. I would never dismiss someone because their point of view differs from mine because that stifles discussion. But, make no mistake I am going to defend my position.




Me editorializing in response to Tanshin's points:

Let me clarify something. Most of the things I write here are lifted from articles I wrote on my blog, or other forums, sometimes copied and pasted. That is why they are long (sometimes lifted from two or more entries). Also, I try to use enough detail in my writing to where I think there won't be a misunderstanding, or ways to misconstrue what I wrote.

People that follow my blog, or twitter, are interested in my current opinions on gaming, MMOs including WoW and FFXIV. I posted my thoughts here on FFXIV versus WoW because it is a FFXIV thread. I don't like some of the decision Square is making in relation to this game, which for me helps my buying decision.

I also assume, that most people here are not into WoW. Thus, know very little comparatively about the current state of the game. Its successes, problems, and failures. Competition has an influence. And WoW is FFXIV's competition. So it difficult to talk about one without mentioning the other because obviously FFXIV is being influenced by WoW. Believe me, I have more things to say on this, that I am saving because I writing a MMO buying guide.


A game forum is for discussing games and opinion of games. Plus, ultimately I am the one that has to make a decision to buy this game. And for FFXIV, my decision is going to be based on if it is worth my time over WoW. I have the right to have expectations because it is my money and time. I choose to determine how I am going spend those. I can only make a decision based on the information at hand. I am not a "wait and see" person. If I took a "wait and see" approach, then that means I am already making a mental investment to hold out for that thing to get better; which may not happen. Thus, I will miss out on potential better opportunities or mental investments available to me in the now that have a higher chance of working out. Not saying my way is right for everyone, but works for me. I am a "think about it today, forget about it tomorrow if it no longer holds my interest" type of person. So agree to disagree here.

And no one is saying a game should be the next WoW. But, there is no reason why a game should not strive to be the next step in MMOs like WoW was to Everquest. Why should I invest time and money in something if I have something that is better? Not only that, but there is a cheaper solution for what is essentially the same type of gameplay at its very core.

WoW has more content, and more features per dollar than FFXIV. That is a fact. Not to FFXIV's fault for being new. But, my beef is the pricing for FFXIV in regards with this. FFXIV is $12 for one character. I understand the arguments in favor of this. But those arguments ignore that people may want to play a different race, or have an alt on another server. This pricing point alienates a large portion of the MMO player base. The price is very steep to ask for someone coming from other MMOs such as WoW. And that is the point of view I am representing here. FFXIV borrows from WoW in a lot of places, so I think comparisons are fair. WoW rips from a lot of other games too.

I do have problems with WoW. A lot of them even. I still think it is the best MMO option out there. I give credit where credit is due. I extend this to FFXIV, or any MMO out there.

Like I said in another post, if you are coming from FFXI, or not currently playing any MMOs, this point of view does not pertain to you. Nor should it.

On a side note, discussion on this forum is abysmal these days. I know you guys save it for the podcast, which is excellent. But it would be nice to have a forum discussion once in a while like back in the old days. Lastly, I tend to play devil's advocate to get some discussion going; not just here, but on my blog. I get some of you may not be bothered with having other responsibilities to attend to.



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Alisha   FFXIVstuff   Aug 4 2009, 03:05 PM
Crushinator   Can't wait to hear how this stacks up to World of ...   Jul 12 2010, 10:11 PM
Scan_Man   LOL! Maybe comparisons later when I get my Catacly...   Jul 12 2010, 10:25 PM
Scan_Man   Testing was canceled for this weekend. Did play it...   Jul 18 2010, 03:33 PM
Crushinator   I like hearing that the quests are like the FF12/1...   Jul 18 2010, 03:50 PM
Scan_Man   Well I have 14 hours under my belt on this game. E...   Jul 24 2010, 12:44 PM
Crushinator   How do you unlock Marth?   Jul 24 2010, 01:36 PM
AC9breaker   Why do kids love cinnamon toast crunch?   Jul 24 2010, 01:49 PM
Crushinator   Why do they call it Apple Jacks when it doesn't ta...   Jul 24 2010, 03:04 PM
donkeybeatz   More importantly, why do they call it Grape-Nuts w...   Jul 24 2010, 04:01 PM
Scan_Man   There is a rainbow lucky charm in the rainbow of L...   Jul 24 2010, 07:05 PM
Crushinator   QUOTE(Scan_Man @ Jul 24 2010, 07:05 PM) T...   Jul 24 2010, 08:16 PM
Scan_Man   Phase 2 of the beta will start tonight. Servers wi...   Jul 28 2010, 01:15 PM
Scan_Man   Phase 3 started. So pretty much this version of th...   Aug 11 2010, 05:39 AM
Kazicht   Good info! I'm relieved about the control and batt...   Aug 11 2010, 11:20 AM
AC9breaker   So now the real question, is anyone here planning ...   Aug 11 2010, 01:16 PM
Crushinator   All depends on if I get a new computer up by then....   Aug 11 2010, 02:23 PM
Scan_Man   The changes have actually made this game enjoyable...   Aug 11 2010, 03:24 PM
tanshin   I didn't want to say anything at the risk of drama...   Aug 12 2010, 01:34 PM
Alisha   i'll be waiting for ps3 release. but at least phan...   Aug 12 2010, 04:17 PM
Crushinator   QUOTE(Alisha @ Aug 12 2010, 04:17 PM) gim...   Aug 12 2010, 04:42 PM
Alisha   QUOTE(Crushinator @ Aug 12 2010, 06:42 PM...   Aug 12 2010, 06:04 PM
Scan_Man   QUOTE(Alisha @ Aug 12 2010, 06:04 PM) QUO...   Aug 12 2010, 06:23 PM
AC9breaker   In any event. I've already pre purchased my copy o...   Aug 12 2010, 04:48 PM
Scan_Man   QUOTE(AC9breaker @ Aug 12 2010, 04:48 PM)...   Aug 12 2010, 05:51 PM
tanshin   QUOTE(AC9breaker @ Aug 12 2010, 03:48 PM)...   Aug 12 2010, 06:02 PM
Scan_Man   WALL OF TEXT! Response to Tanshin: I am just giv...   Aug 12 2010, 05:35 PM
Vitamin D   RE: FFXIVstuff   Aug 12 2010, 05:43 PM
HC82   Wall of text for the win. I like to read walls of ...   Aug 13 2010, 04:46 AM
Scan_Man   LOL! Bravo HC!   Aug 13 2010, 03:07 PM
Afroforce   Look, I haven't played a game with most of you in ...   Aug 14 2010, 09:50 AM
Scan_Man   Of course subject to change. But, if you want to t...   Aug 14 2010, 06:06 PM
Afroforce   I'm up for any server, really. I just want to have...   Aug 14 2010, 06:36 PM
AC9breaker   I don't think any of us are really planning a desi...   Aug 15 2010, 10:37 AM
Crushinator   Did they do away with the bullshit friend passes a...   Aug 15 2010, 02:09 PM
AC9breaker   QUOTE(Crushinator @ Aug 15 2010, 04:09 PM...   Aug 15 2010, 02:32 PM
Afroforce   I'm getting the CE. So I'll be there early, just k...   Aug 15 2010, 02:16 PM
Wiryu   That could potentially just be a 14-day free trial...   Aug 15 2010, 02:44 PM
Scan_Man   Picking your server is part of the character creat...   Aug 15 2010, 03:11 PM
AC9breaker   Actually what is the max population for a server? ...   Aug 15 2010, 03:39 PM
Scan_Man   The max population is indicated by 4 chocobos next...   Aug 15 2010, 05:31 PM
AC9breaker   Ugh, right now I think the biggest thing holding m...   Aug 15 2010, 06:56 PM
Scan_Man   Here is the recommended specs to run the game smoo...   Aug 15 2010, 09:41 PM
Crushinator   QUOTE(Scan_Man @ Aug 15 2010, 09:41 PM) H...   Aug 16 2010, 01:31 PM
Scan_Man   QUOTE(Crushinator @ Aug 16 2010, 01:31 PM...   Aug 16 2010, 04:05 PM
Afroforce   I already showed Dave what I'm having built for me...   Aug 16 2010, 06:07 AM
Knightsword   No, I think they just don't want pc loving america...   Aug 16 2010, 02:29 PM
Scan_Man   BTW this is default settings: Screen mode and win...   Aug 16 2010, 04:26 PM
tanshin   oh my gyaaaaahd. I wonder if I can squeak by until...   Aug 18 2010, 03:07 AM
Alisha   i'm wondering if crafting classes can fight? other...   Aug 23 2010, 04:39 PM
tanshin   They can definitely fight, they just suck at it, h...   Aug 23 2010, 05:14 PM
Alisha   QUOTE(tanshin @ Aug 23 2010, 07:14 PM) Th...   Aug 23 2010, 05:32 PM
Scan_Man   QUOTE(Alisha @ Aug 23 2010, 05:32 PM) QUO...   Aug 23 2010, 07:45 PM
AC9breaker   http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/11964-surpl...-komo...   Aug 25 2010, 02:39 PM
Crushinator   Yeah, i just read over that and it seems like a lo...   Aug 25 2010, 02:54 PM
AC9breaker   RE: FFXIVstuff   Aug 25 2010, 03:09 PM
Scan_Man   Well the main thing people on the beta forums are ...   Aug 25 2010, 07:31 PM
AC9breaker   To summarize what Scan said for all you lazy rubes...   Aug 26 2010, 05:40 AM
Scan_Man   Folks on the beta forums figured out how Surplus w...   Aug 26 2010, 08:11 AM
Crushinator   Pre-release trailer. OH GOD THIS SONG! EDIT: ...   Aug 27 2010, 08:38 AM
tanshin   Dammit, you mean I can't waste all my time grindin...   Aug 27 2010, 11:48 AM
Crushinator   I liked grinding in FFXI. When I finally got l...   Aug 27 2010, 11:58 AM
tanshin   It's true, MMO's are a stairway to nowhere. Even i...   Aug 27 2010, 12:12 PM
Maxx   The silly thing about this whole surplus thing is ...   Aug 27 2010, 12:42 PM
Maxx   QUOTE(Maxx @ Aug 27 2010, 12:42 PM) The s...   Aug 27 2010, 01:21 PM
Scan_Man   All really good points. When it comes MMOs I try...   Aug 27 2010, 03:42 PM
tanshin   Scan- Yeah, I actually agree with you there Scan. ...   Aug 27 2010, 04:25 PM
Crushinator   Officially NOT playing, unless someone gives me a ...   Aug 27 2010, 07:47 PM
AC9breaker   I'll only play is crush is playing. so officially...   Aug 27 2010, 11:57 PM
Crushinator   I just found a computer that fell off the back of ...   Aug 28 2010, 12:49 AM
Wiryu   I will be playing.   Aug 28 2010, 10:55 AM
Vitamin D   Well, I'm not much a fan of this fatigue idea myse...   Aug 28 2010, 10:56 AM
Kazicht   I'm still in, and I'm calling it now - if you let ...   Aug 28 2010, 02:00 PM
Scan_Man   Open beta I will be playing. After launch I will j...   Aug 28 2010, 03:44 PM
Afroforce   I'm in, of course. And I'm kind of thankful I'm g...   Aug 29 2010, 08:31 AM
Knightsword   I'll be giving it a go, got my LE preordered as we...   Aug 29 2010, 10:45 AM
AC9breaker   Just got an email for the open beta. I'll hop on ...   Aug 31 2010, 09:00 AM
Crushinator   Oh no! Open beta delayed! http://www.giantbomb.co...   Aug 31 2010, 03:19 PM
Scan_Man   Yeah not surprised it was delayed. Been the story ...   Aug 31 2010, 06:16 PM
Knightsword   QUOTEFINAL FANTASY XIV Open Beta Test Will Start o...   Sep 1 2010, 12:28 PM
Afroforce   What are the current server names and are they the...   Sep 4 2010, 04:44 PM
Scan_Man   New server names. Cornelia Kashuan Gysahl Mysidia...   Sep 4 2010, 04:49 PM
Afroforce   Nice. Once we pick one, I can start telling my oth...   Sep 5 2010, 12:07 AM
Knightsword   It better damn well be Figaro, or else   Sep 5 2010, 10:09 AM
Afroforce   QUOTE(Knightsword @ Sep 5 2010, 09:09 AM)...   Sep 5 2010, 11:20 AM
Knightsword   If ya have not gotten the beta files downloaded ye...   Sep 5 2010, 09:14 PM
Scan_Man   Which starting city?   Sep 5 2010, 09:30 PM
Knightsword   Dunno, after getting everything downloaded and ins...   Sep 5 2010, 11:13 PM
HC82   What's peoples take on this game so far, consideri...   Sep 7 2010, 09:51 PM
Maxx   QUOTE(HC82 @ Sep 7 2010, 09:51 PM) What's...   Sep 8 2010, 11:58 AM
Crushinator   QUOTE(Maxx @ Sep 8 2010, 11:58 AM) It is ...   Sep 8 2010, 12:38 PM
AC9breaker   Okay so here's the plan. I decided I'm gonna get ...   Sep 8 2010, 01:38 PM
Maxx   QUOTE(AC9breaker @ Sep 8 2010, 01:38 PM) ...   Sep 8 2010, 01:53 PM
Scan_Man   It would be nice if the downloader worked.   Sep 8 2010, 02:57 PM
Knightsword   QUOTE(Scan_Man @ Sep 8 2010, 03:57 PM) It...   Sep 8 2010, 04:36 PM
Scan_Man   I have it downloaded. But, I speak of that as a cr...   Sep 8 2010, 05:00 PM
Knightsword   Yea I went to Limsa Lominsa, that place is worse t...   Sep 8 2010, 05:12 PM
Dive   TEST   Sep 8 2010, 09:24 PM
Wiryu   Success.   Sep 8 2010, 09:26 PM
Knightsword   Oh ya one issue I hope SE fixes the crashing on al...   Sep 8 2010, 09:33 PM
Scan_Man   Ul'Dah is not so bad. The starting experience is ...   Sep 9 2010, 05:43 PM
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